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Breaking my planned HN abstinence, but this is exactly the one thing I worry about: "for instance if they display a preference for talking to or dealing with ma
by Tichy 14y ago
Breaking my planned HN abstinence, but this is exactly the one thing I worry about: "for instance if they display a preference for talking to or dealing with male colleagues over female ones"
Why is this discrimination? I think people should still be allowed to be individuals. So maybe I am more interested in Star Wars and some female developer is more interested in Sex And The City (sorry for the stereotypes, but actually I think more women than men are interested in Sex And The City - fwiw I actually found SATC more interesting than Star Wars, I am just making this example up). So maybe I prefer to talk to a colleague who is also interested in Star Wars? If that is discrimination, or if to be a good non-sexist developer I have to take an interest in Sex And The City, I think this approach to eliminating discrimination is not going to work out.
Personally I think there are differences between men and women and to try to pretend they don't exist will end up a failure. (I don't mean mental capabilities).
I am not writing this to deride the anti-sexism campaigns, but because I genuinely would like to understand how the future is supposed to work out.
One example: will sexual attraction still be allowed at the work place? Obviously it is going to exist, but we can of course learn to suppress it. I would like to hear from the anti-sexism crowd a definite statement on how the envision the sexes to deal with each other.
Making a rule "sexual attraction at the work place is a 100% no go" is of course a possibility, but the reality at the moment seems to be that ~20% of couples met at work. So taking that opportunity for couples to meet away will create a hole that needs to be filled in some other way.
Sexual attraction is also another reason why men might be less comfortable talking to other women than other men. I don't think calling that "discrimination" is doing the complexity of the issue much justice. I also reject the notion that being sexually attracted to a woman is sexist (or vice versa).
(Edit: I'll log off again, but I'll read replies next week...)
- harryh 14y ago> Why is this discrimination? I think people should still be allowed to be individuals. As soon as you become a manager you are no longer allowed to just be an individual. Your actions (both overt and subtle) have power over others so you no longer just get to do whatever you want.