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> It's the only high-level language I know of that only has reference counting for memory management. It's also the only high-level language I know of that can

> It's the only high-level language I know of that only has reference counting for memory management. It's also the only high-level language I know of that can't really be parsed ("only Perl can parse Perl" they say). It's a dead language really, you can also see this from the number of noisy evangelists vs. professional users nowdays (and that comes from someone who has used Perl almost exclusively for the past 10 years), if you couldn't see it from the diminishing quality of important modules on CPAN (e.g. I pulled my hair today over JSON::XS generating '-inf' from values on one side and crashing on the other side while trying to parse it). So, I'm learning Go now and improving my JS skills.

jstanley 14y ago
"you can also see this from the number of noisy evangelists vs. professional users nowadays" Actually, where I work, we use Perl almost exclusively. I don't know a single person who I would consider a "noisy evangelist" - we just quietly get stuff done.
- pyre 14y ago
  Maybe the noisy evangelists are the only ones with enough confidence to publicly proclaim that they use Perl. The others lack confidence and don't publicly announce it because the general programming community responds with disdain / pity.
  - Moto7451 14y ago
    Nah I've never met anyone in the Perl community who seemed to care much about what other people thought about their language choice. Also most Perl developers I've met tend to be polygots so they're less likely to be the yelly "THIS IS THE ONE TRUE LANGUAGE" type. There is a Steve Yeggie quote, though its not necessarily praise for Perl, which always pops to mind when people have a rant about Perl: 'As I've done for a great many other programming languages, I've bashed on Perl's technical weaknesses at length in the past. To my continued amazement, the Perl folks are the only ones who never get upset. They just say "Haha, yeah, boy, you're right, it sure is ugly. Heh. Yeah, so, um, anyway, I'm going to get back to work now..." It's awesome. I've gained so much respect for them. It's almost enough to make me go back to programming in Perl. Well almost.' Edit: Quote reference: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/10/egomania-itself.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/10/egomania-itself.html
psadri 14y ago
I agree with your bet on JS and Go.

jstanley 14y ago

"you can also see this from the number of noisy evangelists vs. professional users nowadays" Actually, where I work, we use Perl almost exclusively. I don't know a single person who I would consider a "noisy evangelist" - we just quietly get stuff done.

pyre 14y ago
Maybe the noisy evangelists are the only ones with enough confidence to publicly proclaim that they use Perl. The others lack confidence and don't publicly announce it because the general programming community responds with disdain / pity.
- Moto7451 14y ago
  Nah I've never met anyone in the Perl community who seemed to care much about what other people thought about their language choice. Also most Perl developers I've met tend to be polygots so they're less likely to be the yelly "THIS IS THE ONE TRUE LANGUAGE" type. There is a Steve Yeggie quote, though its not necessarily praise for Perl, which always pops to mind when people have a rant about Perl: 'As I've done for a great many other programming languages, I've bashed on Perl's technical weaknesses at length in the past. To my continued amazement, the Perl folks are the only ones who never get upset. They just say "Haha, yeah, boy, you're right, it sure is ugly. Heh. Yeah, so, um, anyway, I'm going to get back to work now..." It's awesome. I've gained so much respect for them. It's almost enough to make me go back to programming in Perl. Well almost.' Edit: Quote reference: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/10/egomania-itself.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/10/egomania-itself.html

psadri 14y ago

I agree with your bet on JS and Go.