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Families of the suicidal always blame everyone else.

HeyImAlex 14y ago
Did you actually read the entire story? While I'm wary of anything I read on the internet, if FT is being completely truthful you can't help but think that things are a bit odd. From the beginning I felt like it was probably just grieving parents gripping at straws, but the strangeness just kept piling up...
- AlexeiSadeski 14y ago
  Things are odd, yes, but I imagine that suicide cases are quite frequently odd...
  - homosaur 14y ago
    I guess that means "no, I didn't read it."
  - Confusion 14y ago
    Not in the eyes of outsiders. In this case even outsiders, such as myself, think the story doesn't add up, provided the facts from the story are accurate. If the police says holes were drilled in the bathroom walls to bolt in a pulley and subsequently no holes are seen, then something is very wrong.
chris_wot 14y ago
No, they do not. Edit: you insensitive jerk.
AlexeiSadeski 14y ago
These sorts of cases - in which families accuse the police of complicity or incompetence during suicide investigations - are not exactly unknown. I recall reading accounts of a similarly "suspicious suicide" several years ago. It also included sympathetic interviews with a grieving family in denial. Read for yourself how that turned out: Initial suspicion report, 2007: http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-07-18/news/who-killed-hugues-de-la-plaza/ http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-07-18/news/who-killed-hugues-de... Example of another suspicion report: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-6599236.html?pageNum=1 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-6599236.html?pageNum=1 Whelp, "independent" (kinda) investigation says probably a suicide (2009): http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco&id=7020354 http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_fran... Some continue to push the murder theory (there are many more recent news articles too): http://huguesdelaplaza.blogspot.com/ http://huguesdelaplaza.blogspot.com/ The fact is, no one really knows. Once you hear the other side of the story, things get more convoluted. It seems that the police have a decent reason to classify it as a suicide, but it also seems that the case may have been a murder. So it's weird. These sorts of cases seem to pop up from time to time. Most likely some are murders, and most likely some are suicides. I'm not confident in my own ability to determine which is which by simply reading a highly biased account in a newspaper.

Did you actually read the entire story? While I'm wary of anything I read on the internet, if FT is being completely truthful you can't help but think that things are a bit odd. From the beginning I felt like it was probably just grieving parents gripping at straws, but the strangeness just kept piling up...

AlexeiSadeski 14y ago
Things are odd, yes, but I imagine that suicide cases are quite frequently odd...
- homosaur 14y ago
  I guess that means "no, I didn't read it."
- Confusion 14y ago
  Not in the eyes of outsiders. In this case even outsiders, such as myself, think the story doesn't add up, provided the facts from the story are accurate. If the police says holes were drilled in the bathroom walls to bolt in a pulley and subsequently no holes are seen, then something is very wrong.

chris_wot 14y ago

No, they do not. Edit: you insensitive jerk.

AlexeiSadeski 14y ago

These sorts of cases - in which families accuse the police of complicity or incompetence during suicide investigations - are not exactly unknown. I recall reading accounts of a similarly "suspicious suicide" several years ago. It also included sympathetic interviews with a grieving family in denial. Read for yourself how that turned out: Initial suspicion report, 2007: http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-07-18/news/who-killed-hugues-de-la-plaza/ http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-07-18/news/who-killed-hugues-de... Example of another suspicion report: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-6599236.html?pageNum=1 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-6599236.html?pageNum=1 Whelp, "independent" (kinda) investigation says probably a suicide (2009): http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco&id=7020354 http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_fran... Some continue to push the murder theory (there are many more recent news articles too): http://huguesdelaplaza.blogspot.com/ http://huguesdelaplaza.blogspot.com/ The fact is, no one really knows. Once you hear the other side of the story, things get more convoluted. It seems that the police have a decent reason to classify it as a suicide, but it also seems that the case may have been a murder. So it's weird. These sorts of cases seem to pop up from time to time. Most likely some are murders, and most likely some are suicides. I'm not confident in my own ability to determine which is which by simply reading a highly biased account in a newspaper.