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You are completely and totally ignoring the point. Wanting to take the test is not problematic. Opting out of the boycott and taking the test is not problemati

by stouset 14y ago

You are completely and totally ignoring the point. Wanting to take the test is not problematic. Opting out of the boycott and taking the test is not problematic. Allowing everyone to believe he is joining the boycott, and secretly taking the test anyway is dishonest douchebaggery of the highest order. There are alternate solutions to this problem that do not involve both skipping out on the educational value you perceive to result from taking this take while simultaneously fucking over every one of your classmates, including "innocent victims" who felt pressured into joining the boycot.

jlgreco 14y ago
I, or any other hypothetical student, am under absolutely no obligation to explain myself or report my actions to some frat kids who want to skip out on studying. If I indicated, through an anonymous vote, that I would participate in their boycott but did not, then I would be a jackass. In absence of such an indication, what I choose to do or not do, say or not say, is my business alone.
- stouset 14y ago
  Ah, sorry. I get it. Your language belies your real intent here. You simply want to punish the "frat kids".
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    "Punish them"?!? Give me a fucking break. How entitled can you be? I'm not being colourful when I say "frat kids". They literally had frat kids "guarding" the exam to ensure that nobody entered. I reject your implication that I have any obligation to engage in honest non-anonymous discourse with groups like that.
- stouset 14y ago
  Again, there are two general avenues here that you can take assuming you want to receive the "benefit" of having taken the test. You can do it in a way that benefits you but completely fucks over a bunch of other students, including others who may have been "bullied" against their will. Or you can find a way to do it in a way that benefits you and has zero impact on others. Knowingly and stubbornly committing to doing the former is a dick thing to do, and kind of makes you an asshole. Not the type of "asshole" that acts to further their own self-interest. But the type of asshole who actively acts to subvert the interests of others.
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    "You can do..." How about I do nothing except take my exam as normal? Oh no, that would be a dick thing to do. Actively subverting them... by taking an exam in a class they also happen to be enrolled in... Pure entitlement culture. If they ask, they won't fuck themselves over. If they don't ask, they will fuck themselves over. They are responsible for what happens to them. As long as they do not ask me for my input, I have no responsibility for their actions.
JoshTriplett 14y ago
See reply here, which this branch of the thread seems to have missed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5229384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5229384

by stouset 14y ago

jlgreco 14y ago

I, or any other hypothetical student, am under absolutely no obligation to explain myself or report my actions to some frat kids who want to skip out on studying. If I indicated, through an anonymous vote, that I would participate in their boycott but did not, then I would be a jackass. In absence of such an indication, what I choose to do or not do, say or not say, is my business alone.

stouset 14y ago
Ah, sorry. I get it. Your language belies your real intent here. You simply want to punish the "frat kids".
- jlgreco 14y ago
  "Punish them"?!? Give me a fucking break. How entitled can you be? I'm not being colourful when I say "frat kids". They literally had frat kids "guarding" the exam to ensure that nobody entered. I reject your implication that I have any obligation to engage in honest non-anonymous discourse with groups like that.
stouset 14y ago
Again, there are two general avenues here that you can take assuming you want to receive the "benefit" of having taken the test. You can do it in a way that benefits you but completely fucks over a bunch of other students, including others who may have been "bullied" against their will. Or you can find a way to do it in a way that benefits you and has zero impact on others. Knowingly and stubbornly committing to doing the former is a dick thing to do, and kind of makes you an asshole. Not the type of "asshole" that acts to further their own self-interest. But the type of asshole who actively acts to subvert the interests of others.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  "You can do..." How about I do nothing except take my exam as normal? Oh no, that would be a dick thing to do. Actively subverting them... by taking an exam in a class they also happen to be enrolled in... Pure entitlement culture. If they ask, they won't fuck themselves over. If they don't ask, they will fuck themselves over. They are responsible for what happens to them. As long as they do not ask me for my input, I have no responsibility for their actions.

JoshTriplett 14y ago

See reply here, which this branch of the thread seems to have missed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5229384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5229384