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Regardless of how much warmer the weather is than when Broder drove the car. If Broder had charged the car completely instead of partially regardless of the obv

Regardless of how much warmer the weather is than when Broder drove the car. If Broder had charged the car completely instead of partially regardless of the obvious drop in capacity in colder weather he still would have made it. CNN have just proven the car is capable, cold weather aside nothing would be much different here. Are we forgetting the data from the NYT review clearly showed Broder driving around in circles in a car park? The CNN reporter even said he got lost and yet still made it with miles to spare in the batteries. When you consider the amount of on-board power drawing computing functionality, sensors and logging equipment on the Tesla 200+ miles is impressive. If you're buying an electric car for driving 200+ miles in one go, an electric car is certainly not for you. Tesla fills a niche of drivers who commute to and from work, occasionally to meetings and maybe the airport but don't expect luxury taxi service companies to start buying and driving Tesla electric cars any time soon... Quite personally I am sick of hearing about this whole situation. It's like watching a primary school fight, lots of name calling and accusation slinging, but no violence.

lloeki 14y ago
> Tesla fills a niche of drivers who commute to and from work, occasionally to meetings and maybe the airport The niche is in the price, not the use case, because you're describing what about 80% of the population does with their cars 95% of the time.
- DigitalSea 14y ago
  I believe the niche is partially the price and partially those who want to arrive to work in style. Manager, CEO, COO style employees are the kind of people who'd buy this for the attention and to reaffirm the statement, "Yeah, I'm rich, but I work for it"
  - tomkarlo 14y ago
    Sooo... pretty much anyone who buys a luxury car over $40K.
TwiztidK 14y ago
> Are we forgetting the data from the NYT review clearly showed Broder driving around in circles in a car park? It didn't. It showed him driving .6mi after exiting the highway but there is no proof that he was driving around in circles in a parking lot.
- DigitalSea 14y ago
  It might not prove he drove in circles in a parking lot, but you have to admit there are discrepancies in the data that have not been explained fully by the NYT editor that don't prove he didn't deliberately try and drain the battery all for having the scoop review that tries and dispels Tesla's claims of efficiency.
  - Kylekramer 14y ago
    You are asking the NYT editor to prove a negative? What evidence would you require to prove he didn't deliberately try to drain the battery?
  - free652 14y ago
    There are a lot of claims that were not proven by Musk, like driving through the downtown Manhattan.. When Lincoln Tunnel is nowhere close to Downtown.. (or properly Lower Manhattan) Let's not start nitpicking, that stop was new for the reporter. He stopped once on the different side of the highway (North bound) and on this side of highway (South bound) the tesla station was in a completely different place. So yea, it's very plausible that he was looking for it.
    - cube13 14y ago
      It was the northbound trip before the first charge. For the southbound trip, the car was effectively dead on the tow truck(it didn't have enough charge to disengage the parking break): http://jalopnik.com/towing-company-the-nyt-tesla-model-s-was-dead-when-it-196100064 http://jalopnik.com/towing-company-the-nyt-tesla-model-s-was...
- peeters 14y ago
drzaiusapelord 14y ago
Who are these drivers? My car gets 180 miles range on a full tank (less than the Tesla) and I fill it every week, maybe. Yeah, if you need long range, don't play with electricity.
- stcredzero 14y ago
  Or, at least plug it in overnight on a really cold day.

lloeki 14y ago

> Tesla fills a niche of drivers who commute to and from work, occasionally to meetings and maybe the airport The niche is in the price, not the use case, because you're describing what about 80% of the population does with their cars 95% of the time.

DigitalSea 14y ago
I believe the niche is partially the price and partially those who want to arrive to work in style. Manager, CEO, COO style employees are the kind of people who'd buy this for the attention and to reaffirm the statement, "Yeah, I'm rich, but I work for it"
- tomkarlo 14y ago
  Sooo... pretty much anyone who buys a luxury car over $40K.

TwiztidK 14y ago

> Are we forgetting the data from the NYT review clearly showed Broder driving around in circles in a car park? It didn't. It showed him driving .6mi after exiting the highway but there is no proof that he was driving around in circles in a parking lot.

DigitalSea 14y ago
It might not prove he drove in circles in a parking lot, but you have to admit there are discrepancies in the data that have not been explained fully by the NYT editor that don't prove he didn't deliberately try and drain the battery all for having the scoop review that tries and dispels Tesla's claims of efficiency.
- Kylekramer 14y ago
  You are asking the NYT editor to prove a negative? What evidence would you require to prove he didn't deliberately try to drain the battery?
- free652 14y ago
  There are a lot of claims that were not proven by Musk, like driving through the downtown Manhattan.. When Lincoln Tunnel is nowhere close to Downtown.. (or properly Lower Manhattan) Let's not start nitpicking, that stop was new for the reporter. He stopped once on the different side of the highway (North bound) and on this side of highway (South bound) the tesla station was in a completely different place. So yea, it's very plausible that he was looking for it.
  - cube13 14y ago
    It was the northbound trip before the first charge. For the southbound trip, the car was effectively dead on the tow truck(it didn't have enough charge to disengage the parking break): http://jalopnik.com/towing-company-the-nyt-tesla-model-s-was-dead-when-it-196100064 http://jalopnik.com/towing-company-the-nyt-tesla-model-s-was...
peeters 14y ago

drzaiusapelord 14y ago

Who are these drivers? My car gets 180 miles range on a full tank (less than the Tesla) and I fill it every week, maybe. Yeah, if you need long range, don't play with electricity.

stcredzero 14y ago
Or, at least plug it in overnight on a really cold day.