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Sadly, some OEMs do not permit it to be disabled.
by richij 14y ago
Sadly, some OEMs do not permit it to be disabled.
- recoiledsnake 14y agoWhich OEMs? Reference? Or are you regurgitating hearsay FUD from Reddit comments and SJVN?
- hollerith 14y agoI know what Reddit comments are, but what is SJVN? (Not disagreeing with your comment.)
- cooldeal 14y agoI guess that would be Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols of ZDNet. I remember him saying he wouldn't bet one nickel that the Surface Pro would come with a unlockable bootloader. He should've bet a million, he would've won!
- jmj42 14y agoI believe the Windows 8 certification _requires_ that the user be able to disable secure boot on x86.
- cooldeal 14y agoYes, but some OEMs may ship machines without Windows 8 certification, and Microsoft cannot do anything about them shipping with no way to turn Secure Boot off, an ironic consequence of the DoJ lawsuit against them. Thus, the OEMs need to be named and shamed. However I am not holding my breath for richij (who also appears to be the article author) to name the OEMs.
- takluyver 14y agoAnd even with the OEMs who do get Win8 certification - do we trust Microsoft to enforce their own rule? If they omit the switch, or it doesn't work, will Microsoft withhold certification? Maybe they will. But I'm glad Linux has strategies that don't rely on that.
- richij 14y agoMea maxima culpa. (See my other reply quoting SJVN's more nuanced opinion.)
- Gormo 14y ago> Yes, but some OEMs may ship machines without Windows 8 certification If an OEM is shipping Windows without a Microsoft logo/MDA contract, what possible incentive would they have for enabling Secure Boot at all?
- cbs 14y agoI believe the Windows 8 certification _requires_ that the user not be able to disable secure boot on ARM.
- Ingaz 14y agoMicrosoft in fact LOVES Linux :)
- richij 14y agoSorry, I mis-spoke. SJVN corrected me: "I've never heard of an x86 OEM that doesn't allow secure boot to be turned off, Some do make it almost impossible to figure out how." (https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/302093489347375107 https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/302093489347375107)