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Did anyone else try to find the citations made in the blog post back in the original NYT article? I did and couldn't trace some of them down. The third bullet

Did anyone else try to find the citations made in the blog post back in the original NYT article? I did and couldn't trace some of them down. The third bullet point in the blog says "In his article, Broder claims that 'the car fell short of its projected range on the final leg.' Then he bizarrely states that the screen showed 'Est. remaining range: 32 miles' and the car traveled '51 miles,'" When I do a Command-F on the article, I can't find "32", "51", "final leg", or "fell short". Where is Tesla getting these quotes from?

gregstoll 14y ago
It's in the graphic attached to the NYT article. It's also near the bottom of the Tesla post.
- jonathanberger 14y ago
  Ah thanks, whoops. Should have finished the whole thing. :)
dtran 14y ago
They're in the graphic linked to from the article: "GRAPHIC: A Range Estimate That Misses The Mark": http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10tesla-map.html?ref=automobiles http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10t...
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bathat 14y ago
There was an inset graphic in the original story, which lists miles driven and estimated range remaining at various way-points. I believe this is the url: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10tesla-map.html?ref=automobiles http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10t...
3dptz 14y ago
Check the 3rd image from the bottom. It shows the route, a timeline and both estimated and actual distances.
surrealize 14y ago
When Broder stopped at Norwich for the low-power charge, in the article he says "after an hour they cleared me to resume the trip to Milford". The figure that the NYT released: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10tesla-map.html?ref=automobiles http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10t... is where it says that the car showed an estimated range of 32 miles when he left Norwich. Elon's blog post contradicts Broder's "they cleared me to resume the trip" comment, saying "The final leg of his trip was 61 miles and yet he disconnected the charge cable when the range display stated 32 miles. He did so expressly against the advice of Tesla personnel and in obvious violation of common sense." So the car logs are hard to argue with; the contradictory claim here is about what Tesla said to Broder when he was at Norwich, which presumably wasn't recorded.
- skore 14y ago
  It would be interesting to see the NYT double down on this... only to have Tesla reveal that they did in fact record this conversation and it matches their version of the story.
  - surrealize 14y ago
    Ha, that would be great. And even if they didn't record it, I wonder if they'll start recording those conversations now.

gregstoll 14y ago

It's in the graphic attached to the NYT article. It's also near the bottom of the Tesla post.

jonathanberger 14y ago
Ah thanks, whoops. Should have finished the whole thing. :)

dtran 14y ago

They're in the graphic linked to from the article: "GRAPHIC: A Range Estimate That Misses The Mark": http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10tesla-map.html?ref=automobiles http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10t...

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bathat 14y ago

There was an inset graphic in the original story, which lists miles driven and estimated range remaining at various way-points. I believe this is the url: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10tesla-map.html?ref=automobiles http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10t...

3dptz 14y ago

Check the 3rd image from the bottom. It shows the route, a timeline and both estimated and actual distances.

surrealize 14y ago

When Broder stopped at Norwich for the low-power charge, in the article he says "after an hour they cleared me to resume the trip to Milford". The figure that the NYT released: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10tesla-map.html?ref=automobiles http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2013/02/10/automobiles/10t... is where it says that the car showed an estimated range of 32 miles when he left Norwich. Elon's blog post contradicts Broder's "they cleared me to resume the trip" comment, saying "The final leg of his trip was 61 miles and yet he disconnected the charge cable when the range display stated 32 miles. He did so expressly against the advice of Tesla personnel and in obvious violation of common sense." So the car logs are hard to argue with; the contradictory claim here is about what Tesla said to Broder when he was at Norwich, which presumably wasn't recorded.

skore 14y ago
It would be interesting to see the NYT double down on this... only to have Tesla reveal that they did in fact record this conversation and it matches their version of the story.
- surrealize 14y ago
  Ha, that would be great. And even if they didn't record it, I wonder if they'll start recording those conversations now.