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The party implied is democratic liberalism, which opposes the perceived nepotism in government due to a saturation of rich individuals and leverage afforded by

The party implied is democratic liberalism, which opposes the perceived nepotism in government due to a saturation of rich individuals and leverage afforded by wealth. That's not saying I agree or disagree with the view, I'm just neutrally defining it. I'm not saying he is a member or even ideologically agrees. That's just the position implied in that statement.

AnthonyMouse 14y ago
>The party implied is democratic liberalism, which opposes the perceived nepotism in government due to a saturation of rich individuals and leverage afforded by wealth. Is it? "The government is corrupt and incompetent so they should stay out of it" is a basic conservative/libertarian position. I think a lot more people would agree with conservatives in principle if they weren't so hypocritical and corrupt in practice. You hear the occasional lip service regarding the poor or power imbalances reinforced by government policies, but they never seriously advance policies that would do anything about it, and any time they actually propose or enact anything specific the result is usually the complete opposite of that. Cue the old saw about Republicans believing the government is corrupt and incompetent and proving it every time they're elected.
btilly 14y ago
That party is only implied if you bring a lot of biases to your judgement that I do not share. Why do I not share it? The same statement, with the same reasoning, could be made about tort reform. And yet now when you look at voting records, Republicans are the ones you'd associate the issue with. Ah, but you say that the statement as provided implicitly mentions large corporations as a problem? Yet concern about the power of large corporations is not a uniquely Democratic issue. For instance Rand Paul has taken a pretty strong stance on the issue. d As a generality, most Americans are happy to say that most politicians are corrupt and reflect the vested interests of those who brought them to power. And this unanimity lasts exactly until you ask them about the politicians that they voted for.
SoftwareMaven 14y ago
You read way more into that comment than I put. I, in no way, implied (nor even thought) of any party. I'm still trying to understand the worldview that turned my statement into "Liberal democrats are the source of all that is wrong." I can only think of one, and it is so heavily biased against everything not liberal Democrat that I hope I'm wrong.

AnthonyMouse 14y ago

>The party implied is democratic liberalism, which opposes the perceived nepotism in government due to a saturation of rich individuals and leverage afforded by wealth. Is it? "The government is corrupt and incompetent so they should stay out of it" is a basic conservative/libertarian position. I think a lot more people would agree with conservatives in principle if they weren't so hypocritical and corrupt in practice. You hear the occasional lip service regarding the poor or power imbalances reinforced by government policies, but they never seriously advance policies that would do anything about it, and any time they actually propose or enact anything specific the result is usually the complete opposite of that. Cue the old saw about Republicans believing the government is corrupt and incompetent and proving it every time they're elected.

btilly 14y ago

That party is only implied if you bring a lot of biases to your judgement that I do not share. Why do I not share it? The same statement, with the same reasoning, could be made about tort reform. And yet now when you look at voting records, Republicans are the ones you'd associate the issue with. Ah, but you say that the statement as provided implicitly mentions large corporations as a problem? Yet concern about the power of large corporations is not a uniquely Democratic issue. For instance Rand Paul has taken a pretty strong stance on the issue. d As a generality, most Americans are happy to say that most politicians are corrupt and reflect the vested interests of those who brought them to power. And this unanimity lasts exactly until you ask them about the politicians that they voted for.

SoftwareMaven 14y ago

You read way more into that comment than I put. I, in no way, implied (nor even thought) of any party. I'm still trying to understand the worldview that turned my statement into "Liberal democrats are the source of all that is wrong." I can only think of one, and it is so heavily biased against everything not liberal Democrat that I hope I'm wrong.