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As an Australian (now an NYC resident), I am no stranger to the price gouging that Australians have had to suffer although I must say that how it is now is much
by cletus 14y ago
As an Australian (now an NYC resident), I am no stranger to the price gouging that Australians have had to suffer although I must say that how it is now is much, much better than it was 10-20 years ago.
First, it's worth noting that US prices don't include sales tax. Australian prices include a 10% GST.
Second, international companies will end up doing their accounting in one currency. For tech companies unsurprisingly this is US dollars. Transactions in foreign currencies get converted to USD. Companies hedge themselves against FX risk by locking in exchange rates and giving themselves a buffer so they don't need to change prices every day. Ergo, things in foreign currencies will always cost a little bit more.
So if a Macbook Air costs US$999 and A$1099 (hypothetical, the Apple store is down so I can't check what the actual price is) then that's about right (given A$1 = ~US$1.04).
That all being said, high prices in Australia largely come from it being a small market and, more importantly, consumers putting up with it.
Books are the worst example of this. UK companies get the distribution rights for Australia. Australian copyright law largely protects them from imports (although this was relaxed by the previous Howard government in a 1am Senate vote). Yet what costs $10 in the US will cost $25 in Australia.
The Dell E6x00 laptops routinely cost <$!000 in the US but cost ~$2.5k in Australia for no readily apparent reason (it's been a year or two since I looked at this so it may have changed).
The "waterbed effect" seems to play a part too. The US is a large single market so has a lot of purchasing power compared to pretty much any other market. I've thought that cameras are cheaper in the US (than Europe or Australia) for this reason more than anything else.
To give an Australian corollary to this: Dan Murphy, the largest alcohol retailer owned by one of the two supermarket conglomerates (Woolworths), is killing smaller competitors because their purchasing power is so large they can often sell things (at a profit) for less than non-chain stores can buy them wholesale.
For software in the era of digital distribution there's no justification for Adobe's prices here. It's the same software in the same language. Perhaps they needed different TOS/EULAs for Australia (or at least have them reviewed to make sure they are compliant with Australian law). That's about it.
One thing to be thankful for is the ACCC in Australia actually has teeth and through the Trade Practices Act and Corporations Act has a lot of power. The FTC in comparison seems to be a partisan paper tiger in comparison.
- sailfast 14y agoThanks for bringing up the currency risk - while certainly not responsible for the entire price difference, the cost for hedging risk against foreign currency in Australia has increased quite a bit according to the Australian central bank (from 5-10 basis points to 30-40 - http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/fsr/2010/mar/html/box-b.html http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/fsr/2010/mar/html/box-b.h...) which will definitely put a dent in your profit margin if you start accepting Aussie dollars.
- tomsaffell 14y agoThanks for looking that up and providing some data. But 30-40 basis points = ~0.35%, which is ~1/300th of the ~100% difference in price, so it seems like it's not a significant factor.
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- nikcub 14y ago> That all being said, high prices in Australia largely come from it being a small market That doesn't explain why goods are cheaper in New Zealand[1]. If you have ever bought a pair of Levi's you would find that because they come from the same distributor the price for NZ and the price for AU are on the same tag, and the NZ price is consistently cheaper. You find the same on a lot of goods [2] It is much more nuanced, Australia is specifically getting screwed. A combination of taking advantage of an early adopting wealthy market with heavy regulation, little local competition and our nieve willingness to play along. [1] http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=New+Zealand http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_resul... [2] http://www.2ue.com.au/blogs/2ue-blog/are-we-being-ripped-off-on-prices/20130213-2ecq9.html http://www.2ue.com.au/blogs/2ue-blog/are-we-being-ripped-off... (This story mentions that Vegemite, an Australian product, is cheaper to purchase in the UK than in Australia).
- speleding 14y agoOne obvious solution would be for Australia to start or join a free trade zone. In the European Union you are not allowed to prevent people from trading across borders or discriminating them on their country of residence, so price differences between countries are relatively small. I realize most free trade zones are between neighbouring countries but I don't see why they couldn't do a free trade zone with the USA, for example.