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SelfCloud - Your own cloud

42 points by urza 14y ago

omarchowdhury 14y ago
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of cloud?
- DDub 14y ago
  Nope, it'll still rain
- FreezerburnV 14y ago
  No, this gives the control of the cloud to the people using it. Security conscious people or people that want to keep their data as their own data (rather than in the nebulous state of being on someone else's hardware, thus ownership is murky) are (mostly) the ones who would want to use something like this.
- Kudos 14y ago
  At this point to consumers cloud just means internet accessible storage.
- duked 14y ago
  I think private cloud are a pretty good alternative. Think about how many FIOS/internet box sitting at home unused most of the day, that would be a good use case.
- Espressosaurus 14y ago
  Apparently, if it happens on/over the internet, it's in the Cloud these days.
tobeportable 14y ago
Alternatives ?
- tobeportable 14y ago
  Seafile is my horse : http://seafile.com/en/home http://seafile.com/en/home
  - beagle3 14y ago
    Care to share a little more? I've heard about it, but haven't heard from anyone actually using it. Is it stable? Does it work as advertised?
    - tobeportable 14y ago
      It is stable enough for me. The opened issues on the github aren't really game breaking.
metastew 14y ago
It doesn't seem to support Linux presently... Which is a shame because I'd love to set this up on my Linux-powered HTPC.
sdoering 14y ago
Well interesting, not the first, won't be the last. I am using ownCloud on my own server for things, that are not that mission-critical and I am using git on my own server for private repos. What is left, is some kind of alternative (selfhosted, open source) for google docs. Some alternative for a spreadsheat and some text-document, editable via a browser.
- andrewflnr 14y ago
  Etherpad, if you don't already know about it, but you're also probably interested in interior.substance.io.
mrintegrity 14y ago
As far as I can see it doesn't offer anything that isn't already covered by OwnCloud. Owncloud also offers integration with many other web apps featuring calendaring, ldap, email, etc.. The only license info I can find states "All rights reserved".. I don't have a windows pc to install it on but I assume it has a click through license agreement.. I would have to read that carefully for any "you grant us remote access to your self hosted files" or similar crazyness. Owncloud is released under the AGPL v3.. my only real gripe with owncloud is the fairly shoddy android app!
- casca 14y ago
  I stopped using Owncloud after the sync client deleted a new local file. If a component that's designed to synchronise files will happily delete them in an unrecoverable way, that's a design that I won't trust my data to.
heldrida 14y ago
For those who are looking for a Linux alternative for this, check the open source ownCloud at http://owncloud.org/ http://owncloud.org/
tteam 14y ago
Our Tonido Personal Cloud software (http://www.tonido.com http://www.tonido.com) and sync clients offers exactly the same (Like dropbox but on your own server) on all the OS'es (Windows, Mac and Linux). We also have awesome mobile apps for iOS, Android, Windows 7.5 and Blackberry.
- urza 14y ago
  But tonido is limited to 2GB or something like that, isnt it?
mark_l_watson 14y ago
This looks useful, and I have also looked at ownCloud. A little off topic, but I feel reasonably secure keeping sensitive information on Dropbox and Google Drive by using a little trick: I have scripts for different work flows that ZIP and GPG encrypt material and copy (overwriting previous version) to Dropbox and Drive for backup. This is not so convenient in that I can't access encrypted material easily on my droid phone and iPad.
- lrem 14y ago
  You can go a step forward: put a TrueCrypt volume in there. Much more convenient.
- aw3c2 14y ago
  Android is a good OS. You can en/decrypt GPG files with the free software gem APG: http://www.thialfihar.org/projects/apg/ http://www.thialfihar.org/projects/apg/ And of course you can unzip. You have full access to the filesystem on your user facing storage partition.
- mynegation 14y ago
  ... or use SpiderOak
UnoriginalGuy 14y ago
Amazing how many comments in this thread think this is the same as Owncloud. If they had just read the FAQ they would have known that it wasn't. Owncloud is a client->server<-client model, this is a client<->client model. Essentially any "client" can become a "server." Owncloud is a great business tool for companies, I think this product is more aimed at individuals with multiple devices who want to share files between them... PS - Owncloud has a lot of technical hurdles to overcome. Both the client AND server needs a lot of work. It is a great concept, but needs some refinement.
- heldrida 14y ago
  ...for the same reason the title suggested "own cloud (like dropbox but on your own server)". Isn't Dropbox client > server < client ? Also, because people mentioned that's a pity it's not available yet for Linux. Let's be fair, it's "amazing how you ignored the title".
  - urza 14y ago
    The title was my bad. I misunderstood how the SelfCloud works. I am glad somebody pointed it out.
rmangi 14y ago
Datacenter == shared folder? really?
- TillE 14y ago
  In fairness, there are a number of mistakes on the page that indicate it wasn't written by a native speaker.
  - chacham15 14y ago
    The about page indicates that the company is based in China.
darxius 14y ago
Looks interesting but the spelling/formatting mistakes riddled through the homepage turn me off.
Toenex 14y ago
A decent list of file syncing alternatives is available on wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_synchronization_software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_synchronizat...].
jack-r-abbit 14y ago
dang... was really hoping it was what the title says it is. If there ever was a case for the mods resetting the HN title, this is it. I DO have my own server... but it runs linux and that does me no good with this app. :(
- account_taken 14y ago
  Try open source owncloud, I created a script on GitHub that will install the server with SSL on a fresh Debian server. I am syncing from OSX, Windows and Ubuntu. Try it in a VM https://github.com/mgutz/owncloud-ssl https://github.com/mgutz/owncloud-ssl
  - wildmXranat 14y ago
    Awesome, thanks for posting it and not even for the setup script. I haven't heard about owncloud before.
nodata 14y ago
Does it support LAN Sync? Shared folders with non-SelfCloud users? Instant Upload from Android?
j_s 14y ago
Yes, I would like to trust all my documents, photos, etc. to a random software development company (and a product with no published business plan to fund its own existence) located on the other side of the world in a country where the government has an active interest in using technology to accumulate information it would not otherwise be able to obtain from citizens of my country... where do I sign up?

42 points by urza 14y ago

omarchowdhury 14y ago

Doesn't this defeat the purpose of cloud?

DDub 14y ago
Nope, it'll still rain
FreezerburnV 14y ago
No, this gives the control of the cloud to the people using it. Security conscious people or people that want to keep their data as their own data (rather than in the nebulous state of being on someone else's hardware, thus ownership is murky) are (mostly) the ones who would want to use something like this.
Kudos 14y ago
At this point to consumers cloud just means internet accessible storage.
duked 14y ago
I think private cloud are a pretty good alternative. Think about how many FIOS/internet box sitting at home unused most of the day, that would be a good use case.
Espressosaurus 14y ago
Apparently, if it happens on/over the internet, it's in the Cloud these days.

tobeportable 14y ago

Alternatives ?

tobeportable 14y ago
Seafile is my horse : http://seafile.com/en/home http://seafile.com/en/home
- beagle3 14y ago
  Care to share a little more? I've heard about it, but haven't heard from anyone actually using it. Is it stable? Does it work as advertised?
  - tobeportable 14y ago
    It is stable enough for me. The opened issues on the github aren't really game breaking.

metastew 14y ago

It doesn't seem to support Linux presently... Which is a shame because I'd love to set this up on my Linux-powered HTPC.

sdoering 14y ago

Well interesting, not the first, won't be the last. I am using ownCloud on my own server for things, that are not that mission-critical and I am using git on my own server for private repos. What is left, is some kind of alternative (selfhosted, open source) for google docs. Some alternative for a spreadsheat and some text-document, editable via a browser.

andrewflnr 14y ago
Etherpad, if you don't already know about it, but you're also probably interested in interior.substance.io.

mrintegrity 14y ago

As far as I can see it doesn't offer anything that isn't already covered by OwnCloud. Owncloud also offers integration with many other web apps featuring calendaring, ldap, email, etc.. The only license info I can find states "All rights reserved".. I don't have a windows pc to install it on but I assume it has a click through license agreement.. I would have to read that carefully for any "you grant us remote access to your self hosted files" or similar crazyness. Owncloud is released under the AGPL v3.. my only real gripe with owncloud is the fairly shoddy android app!

casca 14y ago
I stopped using Owncloud after the sync client deleted a new local file. If a component that's designed to synchronise files will happily delete them in an unrecoverable way, that's a design that I won't trust my data to.

heldrida 14y ago

For those who are looking for a Linux alternative for this, check the open source ownCloud at http://owncloud.org/ http://owncloud.org/

tteam 14y ago

Our Tonido Personal Cloud software (http://www.tonido.com http://www.tonido.com) and sync clients offers exactly the same (Like dropbox but on your own server) on all the OS'es (Windows, Mac and Linux). We also have awesome mobile apps for iOS, Android, Windows 7.5 and Blackberry.

urza 14y ago
But tonido is limited to 2GB or something like that, isnt it?

mark_l_watson 14y ago

This looks useful, and I have also looked at ownCloud. A little off topic, but I feel reasonably secure keeping sensitive information on Dropbox and Google Drive by using a little trick: I have scripts for different work flows that ZIP and GPG encrypt material and copy (overwriting previous version) to Dropbox and Drive for backup. This is not so convenient in that I can't access encrypted material easily on my droid phone and iPad.

lrem 14y ago
You can go a step forward: put a TrueCrypt volume in there. Much more convenient.
aw3c2 14y ago
Android is a good OS. You can en/decrypt GPG files with the free software gem APG: http://www.thialfihar.org/projects/apg/ http://www.thialfihar.org/projects/apg/ And of course you can unzip. You have full access to the filesystem on your user facing storage partition.
mynegation 14y ago
... or use SpiderOak

UnoriginalGuy 14y ago

Amazing how many comments in this thread think this is the same as Owncloud. If they had just read the FAQ they would have known that it wasn't. Owncloud is a client->server<-client model, this is a client<->client model. Essentially any "client" can become a "server." Owncloud is a great business tool for companies, I think this product is more aimed at individuals with multiple devices who want to share files between them... PS - Owncloud has a lot of technical hurdles to overcome. Both the client AND server needs a lot of work. It is a great concept, but needs some refinement.

heldrida 14y ago
...for the same reason the title suggested "own cloud (like dropbox but on your own server)". Isn't Dropbox client > server < client ? Also, because people mentioned that's a pity it's not available yet for Linux. Let's be fair, it's "amazing how you ignored the title".
- urza 14y ago
  The title was my bad. I misunderstood how the SelfCloud works. I am glad somebody pointed it out.

rmangi 14y ago

Datacenter == shared folder? really?

TillE 14y ago
In fairness, there are a number of mistakes on the page that indicate it wasn't written by a native speaker.
- chacham15 14y ago
  The about page indicates that the company is based in China.

darxius 14y ago

Looks interesting but the spelling/formatting mistakes riddled through the homepage turn me off.

Toenex 14y ago

A decent list of file syncing alternatives is available on wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_synchronization_software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_synchronizat...].

jack-r-abbit 14y ago

dang... was really hoping it was what the title says it is. If there ever was a case for the mods resetting the HN title, this is it. I DO have my own server... but it runs linux and that does me no good with this app. :(

account_taken 14y ago
Try open source owncloud, I created a script on GitHub that will install the server with SSL on a fresh Debian server. I am syncing from OSX, Windows and Ubuntu. Try it in a VM https://github.com/mgutz/owncloud-ssl https://github.com/mgutz/owncloud-ssl
- wildmXranat 14y ago
  Awesome, thanks for posting it and not even for the setup script. I haven't heard about owncloud before.

nodata 14y ago

Does it support LAN Sync? Shared folders with non-SelfCloud users? Instant Upload from Android?

j_s 14y ago

Yes, I would like to trust all my documents, photos, etc. to a random software development company (and a product with no published business plan to fund its own existence) located on the other side of the world in a country where the government has an active interest in using technology to accumulate information it would not otherwise be able to obtain from citizens of my country... where do I sign up?