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I think this whole article is a despicable example of the complete fucking subjugation of many in corporate life (the author seems to be a prominent member of t

I think this whole article is a despicable example of the complete fucking subjugation of many in corporate life (the author seems to be a prominent member of this subset.) Renting my time doesn't mean you own me. Either I produce sufficiently good work for you + you continue to employee me, or I don't and you do not. Beyond that, go fuck yourself.

singular 14y ago
More calmly:- I don't advocate working on non-work stuff at work, it's not a fair or honest thing to do, and personally, it's not something I do. But the article goes further, it approvingly quotes:- "When people get excited about things outside of work they end showing up to work and going through motions just to get through a day. Everyone loses. The employee loses and the employer loses. People are not going to give all of themselves as they focus on their new outside interest." Which is getting into 'I employee you, so I get to tell you what you do everywhere'. Fuck that.
- avenger123 14y ago
  Along the same lines, I find there there is an implicit though process around going into major debt and having your company know about it. "Why don't you go ahead and get the biggest mortgage you can on a house. Please come and tell me how big your mortgage is and how much you need to work for me for the rest of your life. Now that you have told me, I will make sure to use this information to subjugate you even further."
- vidarh 14y ago
  "Approvingly quotes" is a bit strong. The quote you give was a commenters criticism of their initial article, and they agree with his point that at work / on company time you should abide by your contract. Later on in the article they make clear that despite their claim he made an "extremely valid point" without making clear they meant just that specific aspect, they still believe you should spend time on side projects outside of work / company time.
- derekp7 14y ago
  Not only that -- the article basically implies that even if you aren't specifically working on your side projects on company time, that they can impact your work, because it can be distracting. So that means no dating, getting married, or having kids. No hobbies. No educational pursuits. You work, go home, maybe passively watch TV (but don't talk about last night's Seinfield at the office), sleep, and start over again.

singular 14y ago

More calmly:- I don't advocate working on non-work stuff at work, it's not a fair or honest thing to do, and personally, it's not something I do. But the article goes further, it approvingly quotes:- "When people get excited about things outside of work they end showing up to work and going through motions just to get through a day. Everyone loses. The employee loses and the employer loses. People are not going to give all of themselves as they focus on their new outside interest." Which is getting into 'I employee you, so I get to tell you what you do everywhere'. Fuck that.

avenger123 14y ago
Along the same lines, I find there there is an implicit though process around going into major debt and having your company know about it. "Why don't you go ahead and get the biggest mortgage you can on a house. Please come and tell me how big your mortgage is and how much you need to work for me for the rest of your life. Now that you have told me, I will make sure to use this information to subjugate you even further."
vidarh 14y ago
"Approvingly quotes" is a bit strong. The quote you give was a commenters criticism of their initial article, and they agree with his point that at work / on company time you should abide by your contract. Later on in the article they make clear that despite their claim he made an "extremely valid point" without making clear they meant just that specific aspect, they still believe you should spend time on side projects outside of work / company time.
derekp7 14y ago
Not only that -- the article basically implies that even if you aren't specifically working on your side projects on company time, that they can impact your work, because it can be distracting. So that means no dating, getting married, or having kids. No hobbies. No educational pursuits. You work, go home, maybe passively watch TV (but don't talk about last night's Seinfield at the office), sleep, and start over again.