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"Learning to code" feels like a very amorphous and vague notion. Does it mean knowing iterators and for-loops? Integrating 2 web APIs? Building a compiler? Spe

by doktrin 14y ago

"Learning to code" feels like a very amorphous and vague notion. Does it mean knowing iterators and for-loops? Integrating 2 web APIs? Building a compiler? Speaking for myself : I know how to code, in the sense that I know how to write computer programs. However, it's certainly not enough to get hired as a computer programmer. The problem isn't my lack of presentation, it's a lack of knowledge. This may be the case for others as well.

bawllz 14y ago
Pretty close to my sentiment with the uprise in "<blah blah blah> learn to code". 'Code' is just logic. Its not hard to learn. What is hard to learn is how to translate ideas into a programming language, or better yet, into a <i>system</i>. C0d1ng 15 3Z, designing and developing a system to efficiently and effectively perform a task is hard.
- tanglisha 14y ago
  The author went to one of the coding bootcamps, so that's the context for this article. I haven't been to one, but I doubt they have time to get into computer science so much as coding.
lacker 14y ago
I know how to code, in the sense that I know how to write computer programs. However, it's certainly not enough to get hired as a computer programmer. I disagree. In today's job market, if you can code, you can get hired as a computer programmer. Are https://github.com/arn-e https://github.com/arn-e and http://a-rne.tumblr.com/ http://a-rne.tumblr.com/ your work? (From your profile.) If so, you should definitely be able to get hired as a programmer. If you don't believe me, contact me at my HN username at gmail, and I can help you out.
- anchises479 14y ago
  Then why do so many women say they keep getting tracked out of software development jobs?
  - doktrin 14y ago
    I don't think anyone can actually answer that, since it's anecdotal. For the record, I'm a dude (in case there was any confusion given the context of this thread). Obviously, gender discrimination does not apply in my case.
- doktrin 14y ago
  Appreciate the generous feedback & offer, lacker. The blog & GH are in fact mine.

by doktrin 14y ago

bawllz 14y ago

Pretty close to my sentiment with the uprise in "<blah blah blah> learn to code". 'Code' is just logic. Its not hard to learn. What is hard to learn is how to translate ideas into a programming language, or better yet, into a <i>system</i>. C0d1ng 15 3Z, designing and developing a system to efficiently and effectively perform a task is hard.

tanglisha 14y ago
The author went to one of the coding bootcamps, so that's the context for this article. I haven't been to one, but I doubt they have time to get into computer science so much as coding.

lacker 14y ago

I know how to code, in the sense that I know how to write computer programs. However, it's certainly not enough to get hired as a computer programmer. I disagree. In today's job market, if you can code, you can get hired as a computer programmer. Are https://github.com/arn-e https://github.com/arn-e and http://a-rne.tumblr.com/ http://a-rne.tumblr.com/ your work? (From your profile.) If so, you should definitely be able to get hired as a programmer. If you don't believe me, contact me at my HN username at gmail, and I can help you out.

anchises479 14y ago
Then why do so many women say they keep getting tracked out of software development jobs?
- doktrin 14y ago
  I don't think anyone can actually answer that, since it's anecdotal. For the record, I'm a dude (in case there was any confusion given the context of this thread). Obviously, gender discrimination does not apply in my case.
doktrin 14y ago
Appreciate the generous feedback & offer, lacker. The blog & GH are in fact mine.