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I certainly wouldn't like to suggest that drugs are the answer to everything, but they are the answer to some things... In this case, the author might be inter

I certainly wouldn't like to suggest that drugs are the answer to everything, but they are the answer to some things... In this case, the author might be interested in smoking a HUGE JOINT and stepping into his office. He might find the same sense of curiosity as the five year-old. Magic mushrooms could also do this, but, like the five year-old for the day, might be a bit "more than you bargained for". Note: just as it's not a good idea for a five year-old to run a company, it is also not advisable to run a company while stoned/drunk/etc.

knowtheory 14y ago
Being curious and thoughtful is not the same thing as being stoned. The point is not just the endless asking of questions, but rather not skipping the analysis of things you take for granted (or don't even realize you take for granted). The point is not to be a 5 year old, the point is to ask questions like a 5 year old and use that to better inform how you act.
- nakedrobot2 14y ago
  I beg to differ. Drugs, specifically the hallucinogenic types (and for this case I am also including marijuana in that category) or meditation (for the more enterprising and diligent) are the easiest way to extract yourself from the tunnel vision with which you see the world. In fact, I think most (say) 50 year old people who are "set in their ways" would find it VERY difficult to see the world with "new eyes" without some very strong outside stimulus, whether it is drugs, meditation, or some traumatic event.
  - Nursie 14y ago
    "(and for this case I am also including marijuana in that category)" Really? I've noticed weed makes a lot of people incurious and just sort of drift through things.
    - roc 14y ago
      Indica vs Sativa.
      - Nursie 14y ago
        Seriously? I have severe doubts that that makes as much difference as... well anything. It's like whisky drunk vs. beer drunk, they're different because of the speed you take them in, their concentration absorption speeds and a variety of subjective feelings. Now I know it's a little more complicated than the ethanol picture, with a variety of active compounds in different quantities, but I am very skeptical that a different strain of the plant can make the change from 'stumbling through life apathetically' to 'deep psychedelic self-realisation'. Not that I'm convinced deep psychedelic self-realisation is much other than brainfart either.
        roc 14y ago
        Admittedly I'm not swimming in data. So it could certainly be suggestion or selective reporting or whatever else. All I was really trying to point out was that there are clearly different 'states' of high: introspective (to the point of paranoia), inquisitive, giggly, zoned, etc. Just as there are different states of drunk: 'tipsy', 'hyper-active', 'depressed', 'blotto', etc. So just as not everyone who hits a beer bong is going to streak across the quad to the gymnasium, not everyone who gets high is going to necessarily question the universe nor necessarily sit on the couch and watch the world pass by. You can't gauge marijuana from the actions of a handful of stoners any more than you can gauge alcohol from the actions of a handful of stumbling drunks.
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      - throwaway1 14y ago
        Kind of a moot point when most people are smoking hybrids. And it's all besides the point anyway. Giving somebody who rarely smokes, or never has smoked, a bowl of hardcore sativa is a really, really stupid idea unless you want to babysit them all night. It's also weird to pretend that one class of herbal is radically different from another. There are differences, but they get exaggerated.
  - trhtrsh 14y ago
    AllI have ever heard from a hallucinogenic mind traveler is "we are all connected" or an occasional dreamlike image that is explored by the conscious self later. It's not a replacement for actually experience and thinking about reality.
throwaway1 14y ago
> smoking a HUGE JOINT Or a small amount of something half-decent ... a huge joint of that would practically make your eyes bleed.

knowtheory 14y ago

Being curious and thoughtful is not the same thing as being stoned. The point is not just the endless asking of questions, but rather not skipping the analysis of things you take for granted (or don't even realize you take for granted). The point is not to be a 5 year old, the point is to ask questions like a 5 year old and use that to better inform how you act.

nakedrobot2 14y ago
I beg to differ. Drugs, specifically the hallucinogenic types (and for this case I am also including marijuana in that category) or meditation (for the more enterprising and diligent) are the easiest way to extract yourself from the tunnel vision with which you see the world. In fact, I think most (say) 50 year old people who are "set in their ways" would find it VERY difficult to see the world with "new eyes" without some very strong outside stimulus, whether it is drugs, meditation, or some traumatic event.
- Nursie 14y ago
  "(and for this case I am also including marijuana in that category)" Really? I've noticed weed makes a lot of people incurious and just sort of drift through things.
  - roc 14y ago
    Indica vs Sativa.
    - Nursie 14y ago
      Seriously? I have severe doubts that that makes as much difference as... well anything. It's like whisky drunk vs. beer drunk, they're different because of the speed you take them in, their concentration absorption speeds and a variety of subjective feelings. Now I know it's a little more complicated than the ethanol picture, with a variety of active compounds in different quantities, but I am very skeptical that a different strain of the plant can make the change from 'stumbling through life apathetically' to 'deep psychedelic self-realisation'. Not that I'm convinced deep psychedelic self-realisation is much other than brainfart either.
      - roc 14y ago
        Admittedly I'm not swimming in data. So it could certainly be suggestion or selective reporting or whatever else. All I was really trying to point out was that there are clearly different 'states' of high: introspective (to the point of paranoia), inquisitive, giggly, zoned, etc. Just as there are different states of drunk: 'tipsy', 'hyper-active', 'depressed', 'blotto', etc. So just as not everyone who hits a beer bong is going to streak across the quad to the gymnasium, not everyone who gets high is going to necessarily question the universe nor necessarily sit on the couch and watch the world pass by. You can't gauge marijuana from the actions of a handful of stoners any more than you can gauge alcohol from the actions of a handful of stumbling drunks.
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    - throwaway1 14y ago
      Kind of a moot point when most people are smoking hybrids. And it's all besides the point anyway. Giving somebody who rarely smokes, or never has smoked, a bowl of hardcore sativa is a really, really stupid idea unless you want to babysit them all night. It's also weird to pretend that one class of herbal is radically different from another. There are differences, but they get exaggerated.
- trhtrsh 14y ago
  AllI have ever heard from a hallucinogenic mind traveler is "we are all connected" or an occasional dreamlike image that is explored by the conscious self later. It's not a replacement for actually experience and thinking about reality.

throwaway1 14y ago

> smoking a HUGE JOINT Or a small amount of something half-decent ... a huge joint of that would practically make your eyes bleed.