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Well, at least your bank nor the goverment didn't know that you were buying that pizza. Unless the pizza broker service or Domino's is working with the govermen

Well, at least your bank nor the goverment didn't know that you were buying that pizza. Unless the pizza broker service or Domino's is working with the goverment.

garethadams 14y ago
Good point. Now the pizza shop and unknown intermediary have a record of my purchase and my delivery address. But at least they can't link it to my credit card!
- taligent 14y ago
  Wouldn't they also need your phone number ? So if you only have a mobile (and this is the government) they would also have your current position. Sounds like a great deal: Free Surveillance with every Large Pizza + Coke.
  - icebraining 14y ago
    Why would they need your phone number?
    - taligent 14y ago
      Every single pizza place I have ordered from required a phone number in case the driver can't find the house or is lost etc.
      - SilasX 14y ago
        ... or if the order was a prank and they want to find an asshole to pin it on.
mootothemax 14y ago
Well, at least your bank nor the goverment didn't know that you were buying that pizza. I think you may have misunderstood Bitcoin; you realise it's not anonymous, right?
- notdrunkatall 14y ago
  I'm not the poster you're responding to, but I was under the assumption bitcoin's anononymity was one of its main draws.
  - rmc 14y ago
    Every bitcoin transaction is publically recorded forever. Here's an interface to it http://blockexplorer.com/ http://blockexplorer.com/
    - 27182818284 14y ago
      Right, but you can regenerate new IDs each time? So it is anonymous in the sense that you can have throwaway names.
      - sliverstorm 14y ago
        This is where a study by the Feds (I think?) comes in. They found that they were generally able to link accounts as belonging to the same person, based on transaction patterns and flow of money between the multiple accounts the holder owns. You can make it more difficult to link your accounts together by never transferring funds between your different accounts, but then how do you fund your accounts? It just gets more and more complicated. I don't really think Bitcoin will bring an end to "Follow the money".
        MacsHeadroom 14y ago
        That study was by some Israeli CS students, not the feds. It's methodology was severely messed up. It got absolutely destroyed by this peer review. https://gist.github.com/jgarzik/3901921 https://gist.github.com/jgarzik/3901921
        sliverstorm 14y ago
        Either way, the core idea seems sound IMO.
betterunix 14y ago
...because they would never have noticed that you went to the Domino's website... If you want to buy pizza anonymously, you have a good way to do so already available to you: pay in cash.

Well, at least your bank nor the goverment didn't know that you were buying that pizza. Unless the pizza broker service or Domino's is working with the goverment.

garethadams 14y ago

Good point. Now the pizza shop and unknown intermediary have a record of my purchase and my delivery address. But at least they can't link it to my credit card!

taligent 14y ago
Wouldn't they also need your phone number ? So if you only have a mobile (and this is the government) they would also have your current position. Sounds like a great deal: Free Surveillance with every Large Pizza + Coke.
- icebraining 14y ago
  Why would they need your phone number?
  - taligent 14y ago
    Every single pizza place I have ordered from required a phone number in case the driver can't find the house or is lost etc.
    - SilasX 14y ago
      ... or if the order was a prank and they want to find an asshole to pin it on.

mootothemax 14y ago

Well, at least your bank nor the goverment didn't know that you were buying that pizza. I think you may have misunderstood Bitcoin; you realise it's not anonymous, right?

notdrunkatall 14y ago
I'm not the poster you're responding to, but I was under the assumption bitcoin's anononymity was one of its main draws.
- rmc 14y ago
  Every bitcoin transaction is publically recorded forever. Here's an interface to it http://blockexplorer.com/ http://blockexplorer.com/
  - 27182818284 14y ago
    Right, but you can regenerate new IDs each time? So it is anonymous in the sense that you can have throwaway names.
    - sliverstorm 14y ago
      This is where a study by the Feds (I think?) comes in. They found that they were generally able to link accounts as belonging to the same person, based on transaction patterns and flow of money between the multiple accounts the holder owns. You can make it more difficult to link your accounts together by never transferring funds between your different accounts, but then how do you fund your accounts? It just gets more and more complicated. I don't really think Bitcoin will bring an end to "Follow the money".
      - MacsHeadroom 14y ago
        That study was by some Israeli CS students, not the feds. It's methodology was severely messed up. It got absolutely destroyed by this peer review. https://gist.github.com/jgarzik/3901921 https://gist.github.com/jgarzik/3901921
        sliverstorm 14y ago
        Either way, the core idea seems sound IMO.

betterunix 14y ago

...because they would never have noticed that you went to the Domino's website... If you want to buy pizza anonymously, you have a good way to do so already available to you: pay in cash.