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> The gender battle has existed for as long as we have. An unending competition as to which sex is better. This is no different, we're just changing the rules a

by anextio 14y ago

> The gender battle has existed for as long as we have. An unending competition as to which sex is better. This is no different, we're just changing the rules and bringing in a few different twists with this contest. Wow. No thank you. This kind of thing might be fun and innocent if we were not already living in an industry rife with sexism, inequality, and bro-culture rudeness.

alexanderh 14y ago
I do agree, but also feel like ANYTHING AT ALL to encourage more women to join in on things like this is a good thing. Sometimes people need a sense of competition to step up to the plate. But yea... This is a little too close to being distasteful, considering the way things are. Its a slippery slope though.
- cjbprime 14y ago
  > I do agree, but also feel like ANYTHING AT ALL to encourage more women to join in on things like this is a good thing. Why assume the only effect could be a positive one? It's possible for an idea to discourage women from joining in on things, and furthermore encourage women who've already joined in to feel demotivated. This seems like it might well be one of those ideas. Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicians_syllogism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicians_syllogism.
  - lk145 14y ago
    I can't speak for all women, but as a female developer, I definitely find this event discouraging. I hate being seen as "female dev" instead of just a dev. The last thing I want to do is go to an event that is based on this distinction and could possibly be used as evidence that I am less skilled at my job because of my gender. This is why I only feel truly comfortable at all-women hackathons. It's the only place where I can believe with reasonable certainty that if I mess up it won't lead to a generalization like this: http://xkcd.com/385/ http://xkcd.com/385/
- antihero 14y ago
  > feel like ANYTHING AT ALL to encourage more women to join in on things like this is a good thing Not really, unconsidered, blunt, ignorant attempts are as likely to as much damage as they would good.
- Geekette 14y ago
  That is NOT encouragement in any way. a)I appreciate competition as motivation and this ain't it; I prefer competing in such arenas as a person, not as a woman. b) And for other women whom may cite intimidation as one of the issues that keeps them out of tech fields, this is hardly a way to lure them in.
mediacrisis 14y ago
Its like you took the words out of my fingers.
wam 14y ago
Maybe the top prize could be that everyone has to read Difference and Dominance.
Geekette 14y ago
Agreed. I'm a woman and my first thought on sighting this was "Really? Are we seriously on this bullshit?" When I found out it was a woman behind it, I was even more disgusted. I notice she's backpedaled and the poster has been altered, post twitter uproar.

by anextio 14y ago

alexanderh 14y ago

I do agree, but also feel like ANYTHING AT ALL to encourage more women to join in on things like this is a good thing. Sometimes people need a sense of competition to step up to the plate. But yea... This is a little too close to being distasteful, considering the way things are. Its a slippery slope though.

cjbprime 14y ago
> I do agree, but also feel like ANYTHING AT ALL to encourage more women to join in on things like this is a good thing. Why assume the only effect could be a positive one? It's possible for an idea to discourage women from joining in on things, and furthermore encourage women who've already joined in to feel demotivated. This seems like it might well be one of those ideas. Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicians_syllogism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicians_syllogism.
- lk145 14y ago
  I can't speak for all women, but as a female developer, I definitely find this event discouraging. I hate being seen as "female dev" instead of just a dev. The last thing I want to do is go to an event that is based on this distinction and could possibly be used as evidence that I am less skilled at my job because of my gender. This is why I only feel truly comfortable at all-women hackathons. It's the only place where I can believe with reasonable certainty that if I mess up it won't lead to a generalization like this: http://xkcd.com/385/ http://xkcd.com/385/
antihero 14y ago
> feel like ANYTHING AT ALL to encourage more women to join in on things like this is a good thing Not really, unconsidered, blunt, ignorant attempts are as likely to as much damage as they would good.
Geekette 14y ago
That is NOT encouragement in any way. a)I appreciate competition as motivation and this ain't it; I prefer competing in such arenas as a person, not as a woman. b) And for other women whom may cite intimidation as one of the issues that keeps them out of tech fields, this is hardly a way to lure them in.

mediacrisis 14y ago

Its like you took the words out of my fingers.

wam 14y ago

Maybe the top prize could be that everyone has to read Difference and Dominance.

Geekette 14y ago

Agreed. I'm a woman and my first thought on sighting this was "Really? Are we seriously on this bullshit?" When I found out it was a woman behind it, I was even more disgusted. I notice she's backpedaled and the poster has been altered, post twitter uproar.