I posit the opinion that Rails is a framework in shambles that is good for nothing greater than a contact form far out-ways many others on HN, which is why ther

I posit the opinion that Rails is a framework in shambles that is good for nothing greater than a contact form far out-ways many others on HN, which is why there is a relativisation. These discussions are usually filled with snark and people feeling righteous in their own framework choices, smiling and generalizing about the entire Ruby community. So there's a chasm between people saying "your framework sucks and you should feel bad" and people saying "ok this is actually a good thing".