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Plus one. SEO is absolutely annoying. If a site is built correctly and there is interest in the service or topic the site provides, then the product will be fou

Plus one. SEO is absolutely annoying. If a site is built correctly and there is interest in the service or topic the site provides, then the product will be found. Stuffing keywords into title and heading tags along with other grey area SEO techniques really devalues the internet. I see SEO along the same lines as buying domains that you think may have value and sitting on them. Games like this hinder progress and real utilization of the resources at our disposal.

dchuk 14y ago
You clearly have no idea what SEO really is.
- websitescenes 14y ago
  Of course, optimize your content so that it's easy to find and index. That's building your site correctly. All I am saying is that after market SEO is a little gimmicky because of the patchwork approach taken by many SEO specialists. As a longtime developer that has had lots of interaction with clients, I know they often spend their time worrying about SEO instead of posting good content. If a consumer isn't satisfied with search rankings and they think their site is poorly built, then they are better off contracting someone that will build it correctly the first time. Now obviously a dynamically served website has some SEO issues and needs some special attention, but this shouldn't be an after thought or third party component.
a5seo 14y ago
"if a site is built correctly" - right. That's far from a given. I can show you dozens of examples of well-funded "A list" too-cool-for-SEO developers who have no idea whatsoever what "built correctly" entails from the POV of a search engine. The role of SEO is a) Product Management to set requirements to optimize crawlability, indexing, and retrieval, or b) QA that arrives after the fact and highlights all the ways the site fails to be usable for bots. My experience is if you design things right first, it costs much less than if you don't. Plus you see the upside of your efforts quickly. But maybe some people take the attitude that "giving me traffic is Google's job" and then when they don't get organic traffic, they have to buy it. Hopefully they also enjoy raising money and giving up a big chunk of their company, too.
- websitescenes 14y ago
  "My experience is if you design things right first, it costs much less than if you don't. Plus you see the upside of your efforts quickly." That's what I said.

dchuk 14y ago

You clearly have no idea what SEO really is.

websitescenes 14y ago
Of course, optimize your content so that it's easy to find and index. That's building your site correctly. All I am saying is that after market SEO is a little gimmicky because of the patchwork approach taken by many SEO specialists. As a longtime developer that has had lots of interaction with clients, I know they often spend their time worrying about SEO instead of posting good content. If a consumer isn't satisfied with search rankings and they think their site is poorly built, then they are better off contracting someone that will build it correctly the first time. Now obviously a dynamically served website has some SEO issues and needs some special attention, but this shouldn't be an after thought or third party component.

a5seo 14y ago

"if a site is built correctly" - right. That's far from a given. I can show you dozens of examples of well-funded "A list" too-cool-for-SEO developers who have no idea whatsoever what "built correctly" entails from the POV of a search engine. The role of SEO is a) Product Management to set requirements to optimize crawlability, indexing, and retrieval, or b) QA that arrives after the fact and highlights all the ways the site fails to be usable for bots. My experience is if you design things right first, it costs much less than if you don't. Plus you see the upside of your efforts quickly. But maybe some people take the attitude that "giving me traffic is Google's job" and then when they don't get organic traffic, they have to buy it. Hopefully they also enjoy raising money and giving up a big chunk of their company, too.

websitescenes 14y ago
"My experience is if you design things right first, it costs much less than if you don't. Plus you see the upside of your efforts quickly." That's what I said.