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“It seems to me a certainty that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of the Arab women are the outstanding causes for the arrested de

• mkhattab 14y ago
  Interesting that you quoted an outspoken racist and anti-semite. I'm guessing you believe in a "clash of civilizations" existential conflict between Muslims and Westerners, right?
  • maeon3 14y ago
    You used a genetic fallacy there, attacking the labels of a person and using that slander as a reason that his statement is wrong. It's like saying my opponent is a muffin-eater, and we all know that muffin eaters are to be despised, so his statement about cats is incorrect. Do you believe that all anti-semites make invalid points about the world? Or is it true that ONLY NON anti-Semitic people can say true things? It doesn't matter if George S Patton just got done eating 15 babies for lunch. His argument stands/falls on its own weight. Attack his argument directly, not make a political attack against his person and dismiss his argument that way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy
  • 001sky 14y ago
    Interesting that you quoted an outspoken racist and anti-semite -- Have your read the history of 20th Century Warfare?
• 616c 14y ago
  Yeah, quoting a bigot make you look like, well, a bigot. Sincerely, Guy who converted, studied Arabic for 6+ years, has master coursework on Arabic, Islamic studies, Middle East history, and knows this is utter bullshit. And calling an Egyptian an Arab is an insult these days; it is associated with people in the Gulf, and they are not viewed positively, much like a local version of Americans who use their wealth to interfere in local politics and make over generalizations about their interests that they do not understand go figure. Get off my lawn.
  • waps 14y ago
    The above statement you're responding to is clearly a statement that islam itself is horrible, and muslims suffer for it. This is not a racist statement for obvious reasons. Anyone's opinion on the system of islam, no matter how horrible or even disgusting they find it, does not constitute a racist opinion, obviously. Claiming that islam itself is the main reason for the current state of muslim countries is merely stating the obvious, and is no more racist a statement than that communism seems to have failed. As somebody who's studied law, let me just say that I fully agree that islam is a horrible system. Islam itself, imho, also fits any reasonable definition of racism due to (amongst other things) the laws that openly discriminate based on skin color, religion, and sex. And it's a law system that was rightfully considered archaic in the dark ages, when it was created. It is stupid for giving power of life and death to people who are loosely specified and giving blanket reasons for "the state" to kill people (google "3 reasons to kill a muslim", "dhimma", "women testify islam" for a basic introduction to these issues). Aside from that, the central figure of islam, the "prophet" is a paedophile, a thief, a mass-murderer, a rapist, a slave-trader, someone who kidnapped innocents into slavery, torturer, and plenty worse. That's the figure islamic "holy" texts describe.
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