> Students go to a CC for several reasons. Yes. For some time I was one of them. I am uncertain why you interpret what I said to be harsh. Respectfully, it

> Students go to a CC for several reasons. Yes. For some time I was one of them. I am uncertain why you interpret what I said to be harsh. Respectfully, it seems to me like saying "look, at the price you pay at McDonald's, there's not enough money floating around to get a filet." This is realism, not harshness. It costs a lot of money to run a school, and the US doesn't really fund its community colleges. . > And the comparison of OKCCC to your alma mater is almost useless. It would be nice if, while saying I'm being inappropriately harsh, you differentiate between something that's useless and something you merely do not understand the use of. . > These aren't cutting corners, these are inappropriate expenses Sure. They're also not even slightly the dominant costs in running a school, and not what I referred to. But you're right, the topics you raised, that I did not, aren't particularly cut corners. . > That said, a CC program isn't going to have tenured research professors in a field teaching an introduction course, and won't have the fellowship/intern programs in place, or foreign exchange programs. These can (indirectly) affect the quality of education. My my. And here I thought you didn't agree with me. Of course, these also aren't the dominant costs in running a school, and also aren't what I was talking about. As a point of preference, I generally ask someone to explain themselves before calling them wrong in public. But maybe that's just because I don't like arguing with my own guesses about what someone meant. YMMV. . > But to say that these are all cut corners is to idealize what an education must be. I would request that you re-read what I said more carefully. The things you point out aren't actually related to what I was discussing.