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I think they need to stop adding new stuff and fix what's already released. Snow Leopard was the best version of OS X because they did exactly that. Bug fixing.

by firedev 14y ago

I think they need to stop adding new stuff and fix what's already released. Snow Leopard was the best version of OS X because they did exactly that. Bug fixing. No new stuff.

c3d 14y ago
I agree completely. But also, they are not "adding new stuff" anymore. There's practically no new functionality in 10.7 or 10.8. Instead, they are rewriting existing functionality, often in a way that breaks because it fails to take into account all accumulated knowledge. Joel Spolsky wrote about that here: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html. Restarting from scratch is the worst idea you can have. Here are things that were broken in OSX 10.7 or 10.8: Dual monitor support, resolution change, keyboard input, auto-correction, Save As, Suspend/Resume, Backups/Time Machine, Preview, Window manager (backing store), OpenGL (stereoscopy = kernel panic, very annoying for http://www.taodyne.com http://www.taodyne.com), Mail, Safari, RSS feeds, Windows networking. That's just off the top of my head, sure there are many others. But things are only marginally better in Linux or Windows land. On Linux, the user interface in Ubuntu is a mixed bag. At least, I get a sense of purpose and direction. And Windows 8 is like "What were they thinking" (although I met a few users who think it's a good ideas, so YMMV). And what about C++11, which added the kitchen sink but forgot introspection/reflection? What about Facebook which still has not found a business model, but keeps rewriting privacy rules? What about washing machines that break after 5.0001 years? BTW, stuff that is not the way it should be is the primary topic of my own blog, Grenouille Bouillie, https://grenouillebouillie.wordpress.com https://grenouillebouillie.wordpress.com. Sorry for the shameless plug, but it's really a topic close to my heart.

by firedev 14y ago

I think they need to stop adding new stuff and fix what's already released. Snow Leopard was the best version of OS X because they did exactly that. Bug fixing. No new stuff.

c3d 14y ago

I agree completely. But also, they are not "adding new stuff" anymore. There's practically no new functionality in 10.7 or 10.8. Instead, they are rewriting existing functionality, often in a way that breaks because it fails to take into account all accumulated knowledge. Joel Spolsky wrote about that here: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html. Restarting from scratch is the worst idea you can have. Here are things that were broken in OSX 10.7 or 10.8: Dual monitor support, resolution change, keyboard input, auto-correction, Save As, Suspend/Resume, Backups/Time Machine, Preview, Window manager (backing store), OpenGL (stereoscopy = kernel panic, very annoying for http://www.taodyne.com http://www.taodyne.com), Mail, Safari, RSS feeds, Windows networking. That's just off the top of my head, sure there are many others. But things are only marginally better in Linux or Windows land. On Linux, the user interface in Ubuntu is a mixed bag. At least, I get a sense of purpose and direction. And Windows 8 is like "What were they thinking" (although I met a few users who think it's a good ideas, so YMMV). And what about C++11, which added the kitchen sink but forgot introspection/reflection? What about Facebook which still has not found a business model, but keeps rewriting privacy rules? What about washing machines that break after 5.0001 years? BTW, stuff that is not the way it should be is the primary topic of my own blog, Grenouille Bouillie, https://grenouillebouillie.wordpress.com https://grenouillebouillie.wordpress.com. Sorry for the shameless plug, but it's really a topic close to my heart.