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Not really a concern? I don't agree. Look at large C++ projects, and let's not speak about GPU frameworks like CUDA, OpenCL and OpenACC. If it weren't be a conc

by DeepDuh 14y ago

Not really a concern? I don't agree. Look at large C++ projects, and let's not speak about GPU frameworks like CUDA, OpenCL and OpenACC. If it weren't be a concern, software companies wouldn't invest in clusters just for compilation.

laureny 14y ago
Didn't I just single out C++ as the only mainstream language being slow to compile?
- RobotCaleb 14y ago
  Apparently you're stuck in a world where nobody around you uses C++. I hate to be the one to break the news to you...
  - laureny 14y ago
    Didn't I just call C++ "mainstream"?
pjmlp 14y ago
Contrary to what many young developers may think, C and C++ aren't the only languages with compilation to native code. Already in 1987 Turbo Pascal 4.0 was compiling quite fast, Borland states around 34,000 lines/minute for the 5.5 version in 1989. Similar compilation speeds are possible for languages with modules, since the early 80's. Go's compilation speed is only news for someone that never used a module based language for systems programming like Modula-2 or Turbo Pascal, just to name two.
- stesch 14y ago
  It doesn't matter if somebody knows Turbo Pascal 4.0 or Modula 2 if you can't use it. We are repeating history because the old ways were forgotten or replaced.
  - ufo 14y ago
    What he was trying to say is that you shouldn't "design for fast compilation". You should design the language to allow modularity and fast compilation will naturally follow.
  - pjmlp 14y ago
    > It doesn't matter if somebody knows Turbo Pascal 4.0 or Modula 2 if you can't use it. Some Modula-2 compilers: http://www.modula2.org/adwm2/ http://www.modula2.org/adwm2/ http://plas.fit.qut.edu.au/gpm/ http://plas.fit.qut.edu.au/gpm/ http://www.modulaware.com/ http://www.modulaware.com/ http://www.excelsior-usa.com/xdsx86.html http://www.excelsior-usa.com/xdsx86.html Modern Turbo Pascal compatible compilers: http://www.freepascal.org/ http://www.freepascal.org/ http://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/avr/ http://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/avr/ http://turbopascal.org/ http://turbopascal.org/ http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi It is just a matter to look for them.

by DeepDuh 14y ago

laureny 14y ago

Didn't I just single out C++ as the only mainstream language being slow to compile?

RobotCaleb 14y ago
Apparently you're stuck in a world where nobody around you uses C++. I hate to be the one to break the news to you...
- laureny 14y ago
  Didn't I just call C++ "mainstream"?

pjmlp 14y ago

Contrary to what many young developers may think, C and C++ aren't the only languages with compilation to native code. Already in 1987 Turbo Pascal 4.0 was compiling quite fast, Borland states around 34,000 lines/minute for the 5.5 version in 1989. Similar compilation speeds are possible for languages with modules, since the early 80's. Go's compilation speed is only news for someone that never used a module based language for systems programming like Modula-2 or Turbo Pascal, just to name two.

stesch 14y ago
It doesn't matter if somebody knows Turbo Pascal 4.0 or Modula 2 if you can't use it. We are repeating history because the old ways were forgotten or replaced.
- ufo 14y ago
  What he was trying to say is that you shouldn't "design for fast compilation". You should design the language to allow modularity and fast compilation will naturally follow.
- pjmlp 14y ago
  > It doesn't matter if somebody knows Turbo Pascal 4.0 or Modula 2 if you can't use it. Some Modula-2 compilers: http://www.modula2.org/adwm2/ http://www.modula2.org/adwm2/ http://plas.fit.qut.edu.au/gpm/ http://plas.fit.qut.edu.au/gpm/ http://www.modulaware.com/ http://www.modulaware.com/ http://www.excelsior-usa.com/xdsx86.html http://www.excelsior-usa.com/xdsx86.html Modern Turbo Pascal compatible compilers: http://www.freepascal.org/ http://www.freepascal.org/ http://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/avr/ http://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/avr/ http://turbopascal.org/ http://turbopascal.org/ http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi It is just a matter to look for them.