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I am in this country because the US government thinks it's beneficial to the US in some way This is factually correct but it's half the truth, and is probably

by nebula 18y ago

I am in this country because the US government thinks it's beneficial to the US in some way This is factually correct but it's half the truth, and is probably misleading. Any transaction executed by two entities at their own free will is generally supposed to be beneficial to both the entities, otherwise the transaction wouldn't have taken place. Yo mentioned only one side of the deal and it sounds as though you are here purely to help the US. Coming to my argument part, I was not actually arguing that the immigration policy is good; it has its own problems. I was wondering about why ambitious people behave this way when they face obstacles. The fact that I have been seeing this attitude for quite sometime including on HN drove me crazy and I probably sounded more sarcastic than I would have wanted. Sorry about it. Anyway, my point is this: People who are ambitious and want to achieve face many obstacles. If you are really serious, you jump over them, work around them, crawl under them, move ahead and work towards your goal. Obstacles won't stop people from realizing their dreams. In Randy Pausch's words "Brick walls are there for a reason. They let us prove how badly we want things." [http://www.cmu.edu/uls/journeys/randy-pausch/index.html http://www.cmu.edu/uls/journeys/randy-pausch/index.html] Look at this guy for inspiration,http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=500021 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=500021 he finally did what he wanted when he found himself under similar circumstances. I would say he would have probably done better; why waste five years? Probably US did a disfavor to itself by not giving him greencard. But what I'm trying to figure out is why are people saying things like "if immigration policy would have been that way" we would have created startups, etc., Well to me at least, that sounds like "If only those angels had put in money, I would have my business running by now". Things don't quite work that way in reality; do they?

ajju 18y ago
Yo mentioned only one side of the deal and it sounds as though you are here purely to help the US. When did I imply I am here to help the US? People who are ambitious and want to achieve face many obstacles. If you are really serious, you jump over them, work around them, crawl under them, move ahead and work towards your goal. Obstacles won't stop people from realizing their dreams. If one of my obstacles is the law, then arguing that it should be changed is one way of trying to overcome the obstacle. There are other ways of trying to do the same thing, which I am pursuing. Your assumption that the only thing I am doing is sitting here and cribbing about immigration policy is just that - an assumption. The article about is about immigrants and immigration law, so I commented about the law. I see your larger point about not thinking that the country I am in has to be a constant instead of a variable and I am not.

by nebula 18y ago

ajju 18y ago

Yo mentioned only one side of the deal and it sounds as though you are here purely to help the US. When did I imply I am here to help the US? People who are ambitious and want to achieve face many obstacles. If you are really serious, you jump over them, work around them, crawl under them, move ahead and work towards your goal. Obstacles won't stop people from realizing their dreams. If one of my obstacles is the law, then arguing that it should be changed is one way of trying to overcome the obstacle. There are other ways of trying to do the same thing, which I am pursuing. Your assumption that the only thing I am doing is sitting here and cribbing about immigration policy is just that - an assumption. The article about is about immigrants and immigration law, so I commented about the law. I see your larger point about not thinking that the country I am in has to be a constant instead of a variable and I am not.