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If it was a $50,000 car, I'd expect the police to put in a fair bit more effort to recovering it than a $50 kindle. When your cell phone gets stolen, the polic

by EwanToo 14y ago

If it was a $50,000 car, I'd expect the police to put in a fair bit more effort to recovering it than a $50 kindle. When your cell phone gets stolen, the police are the right people to turn to, not your network provider.

DanBC 14y ago
In the UK there was a problem of people reporting their phones stolen so they could break the contract. One police station I walked into had a sign saying that they investigate all reported phone theft, and would vigorously prosecute anyone making a false report. In general you report the phone to your service provider (so they can block the IMEI (and there's a potential 5 year prison sentence for people who change that) and then the police to get a crime reference number and then whoever has insured the phone (sometimes the provider) to give them the reference number. Perhaps this is a niche for a specialist to enter. Create some tool that gives law enforcement and phone providers easy to use data-mining to allow them to track stolen phones and catch thieves. (I haven't described it well, but this would be something with tight integration between law enforcement and providers; it'd have some kind of auditing to ensure correct legal documentation; it would allow data on many phones to be displayed so you could heat map where phones are stolen from or where stolen phones are ending up, etc.)
- thisone 14y ago
  how were people "legally" breaking contract doing this? It would seem more like an insurance scam. Unless mobile contracts have since changed, of course.
  - DanBC 14y ago
    It isn't legal. They weren't interested in the insurance, they just wanted to use that phone on a different provider or to get a new phone.
    - thisone 14y ago
      I just don't understand how reporting the phone as stolen would allow them to break the contract without having to pay the fee, or allow them to get a new phone without paying full price ( without going through the insurance). I know little about IMEI resetting (which is a good thing I guess), but I thought it was a separate thing from phone unlocking?
- illuminate 14y ago
  "In the UK there was a problem of people reporting their phones stolen so they could break the contract." People do this in the states too, for insurance purposes.
ankitml 14y ago
Network providers can give you current information of location, once you show them report that you have registered the device as 'lost' with the police. A least this is how it happens in India

by EwanToo 14y ago

DanBC 14y ago

In the UK there was a problem of people reporting their phones stolen so they could break the contract. One police station I walked into had a sign saying that they investigate all reported phone theft, and would vigorously prosecute anyone making a false report. In general you report the phone to your service provider (so they can block the IMEI (and there's a potential 5 year prison sentence for people who change that) and then the police to get a crime reference number and then whoever has insured the phone (sometimes the provider) to give them the reference number. Perhaps this is a niche for a specialist to enter. Create some tool that gives law enforcement and phone providers easy to use data-mining to allow them to track stolen phones and catch thieves. (I haven't described it well, but this would be something with tight integration between law enforcement and providers; it'd have some kind of auditing to ensure correct legal documentation; it would allow data on many phones to be displayed so you could heat map where phones are stolen from or where stolen phones are ending up, etc.)

thisone 14y ago
how were people "legally" breaking contract doing this? It would seem more like an insurance scam. Unless mobile contracts have since changed, of course.
- DanBC 14y ago
  It isn't legal. They weren't interested in the insurance, they just wanted to use that phone on a different provider or to get a new phone.
  - thisone 14y ago
    I just don't understand how reporting the phone as stolen would allow them to break the contract without having to pay the fee, or allow them to get a new phone without paying full price ( without going through the insurance). I know little about IMEI resetting (which is a good thing I guess), but I thought it was a separate thing from phone unlocking?
illuminate 14y ago
"In the UK there was a problem of people reporting their phones stolen so they could break the contract." People do this in the states too, for insurance purposes.

ankitml 14y ago

Network providers can give you current information of location, once you show them report that you have registered the device as 'lost' with the police. A least this is how it happens in India