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Interesting, very interesting, maybe we will be able to steer copyright back toward its original purpose ( block plagiarism ) Copyright purpose was not prevent

by speeder 14y ago

Interesting, very interesting, maybe we will be able to steer copyright back toward its original purpose ( block plagiarism ) Copyright purpose was not preventing people from getting your work for free, it was to prevent them to pay for your work to someone you did not authorized, like some crazy publishers of 16th century that would happily sell copies of books, even books not complete yet, without paying authors.

TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
Shakespeare was a victim of this. People would sell copies of his plays and he would get nothing.
- lostnet 14y ago
  Would we know who he was or have as many of his works if they didn't?
- Suncho 14y ago
  Oh, that's very cool! Do you have any recommendations for where I should read about Shakespeare's financial situation and his various motivations for writing his plays? In my mind, because my mind wants Shakespeare to be awesome in every possible way, I assumed that he created his plays with the idea that his work would reach as many people as possible. It never occurred to me that he'd be in it for the money or feel victimized when people valued his work highly enough that they would pass it along, share it, and perform it for others.
- chrisbennet 14y ago
  “But Shakespeare didn’t just read these texts and imitate their best parts; he made them his own, seamlessly blending them together in his plays. Sometimes the literary approach got Shakespeare into trouble. His peers repeatedly accused him of plagiarism, and he was often guilty, at least by contemporary standards. What these allegations failed to take into account, however, was that Shakespeare was pioneering a new creative method in which every conceivable source informed his art. For Shakespeare, the act of creation was inseparable from the act of connection.” Page 220, Imagine by Jonah Lehrer
nova 14y ago
Exactly. Acknowledgement of authorship and perhaps some very limited temporal monopoly on commercial use only, perhaps 10 or 15 years since publication. That's the difference between encouraging creativity and protecting parasitical monopolies like that of paywalls' owners.
ZeroGravitas 14y ago
The original purpose of copyright was censorship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law#Early_privileges_and_monopolies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law#Early_... "The origin of copyright law in most European countries lies in efforts by the church and governments to regulate and control the output of printers.[6] Before the invention of the printing press, a writing, once created, could only be physically multiplied by the highly laborious and error-prone process of manual copying by scribes. An elaborate system of censorship and control over scribes existed.[7] Printing allowed for multiple exact copies of a work, leading to a more rapid and widespread circulation of ideas and information (see print culture).[6] Pope Alexander VI issued a bull in 1501 against the unlicensed printing of books and in 1559 the Index Expurgatorius, or List of Prohibited Books, was issued for the first time.[7]" Later it was extended as a way for governments to grant money to special interests! Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

by speeder 14y ago

TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago

Shakespeare was a victim of this. People would sell copies of his plays and he would get nothing.

lostnet 14y ago
Would we know who he was or have as many of his works if they didn't?
Suncho 14y ago
Oh, that's very cool! Do you have any recommendations for where I should read about Shakespeare's financial situation and his various motivations for writing his plays? In my mind, because my mind wants Shakespeare to be awesome in every possible way, I assumed that he created his plays with the idea that his work would reach as many people as possible. It never occurred to me that he'd be in it for the money or feel victimized when people valued his work highly enough that they would pass it along, share it, and perform it for others.
chrisbennet 14y ago
“But Shakespeare didn’t just read these texts and imitate their best parts; he made them his own, seamlessly blending them together in his plays. Sometimes the literary approach got Shakespeare into trouble. His peers repeatedly accused him of plagiarism, and he was often guilty, at least by contemporary standards. What these allegations failed to take into account, however, was that Shakespeare was pioneering a new creative method in which every conceivable source informed his art. For Shakespeare, the act of creation was inseparable from the act of connection.” Page 220, Imagine by Jonah Lehrer

nova 14y ago

Exactly. Acknowledgement of authorship and perhaps some very limited temporal monopoly on commercial use only, perhaps 10 or 15 years since publication. That's the difference between encouraging creativity and protecting parasitical monopolies like that of paywalls' owners.

ZeroGravitas 14y ago

The original purpose of copyright was censorship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law#Early_privileges_and_monopolies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law#Early_... "The origin of copyright law in most European countries lies in efforts by the church and governments to regulate and control the output of printers.[6] Before the invention of the printing press, a writing, once created, could only be physically multiplied by the highly laborious and error-prone process of manual copying by scribes. An elaborate system of censorship and control over scribes existed.[7] Printing allowed for multiple exact copies of a work, leading to a more rapid and widespread circulation of ideas and information (see print culture).[6] Pope Alexander VI issued a bull in 1501 against the unlicensed printing of books and in 1559 the Index Expurgatorius, or List of Prohibited Books, was issued for the first time.[7]" Later it was extended as a way for governments to grant money to special interests! Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.