What "scientists" are you talking about? In my group, we use Python and Numpy almost exclusively. Some of us have been pushing for Haskell. Let's flip your st

What "scientists" are you talking about? In my group, we use Python and Numpy almost exclusively. Some of us have been pushing for Haskell. Let's flip your statement around a little: "As someone who's tried to work with web designers in the past, you probably do not want to be connected to them. They do 1990s HTML 1.0 and flash, know nothing else, and do not want to know anything else."