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I was shocked to read this as well. This summer I went to meetups where after talking with somebody new for five minutes, they would say, "By the way, we're hir

I was shocked to read this as well. This summer I went to meetups where after talking with somebody new for five minutes, they would say, "By the way, we're hiring...", to which I would reply, "Yeah, so are we!" About half of my classmates (in a Statistics PhD program) are foreigners. These are literally the brightest statisticians of their year from their respective countries, and making it even the least bit hard for them to stay in the US is a big mistake. We could use their talent!

eshvk 14y ago
> About half of my classmates (in a Statistics PhD program) are foreigners. These are literally the brightest statisticians of their year from their respective countries, and making it even the least bit hard for them to stay in the US is a big mistake. We could use their talent! What makes you think they are going to have a hard time to stay in the U.S.? Honestly if they are good, literally stapling a green card to their PhD once they graduate is the only thing that is going to be easier than the current system. Let me explain: You finish your PhD, you can work for a period of 27 months for any related employer under your F1 visa, then you can work for a period of 6 years on an H1B. While this is happening, your employer can file for a Green Card for you. Hell, if you are "literally the brightest statisticians of their year", you can apply for a Green Card as a person of extraordinary ability.
- GFischer 14y ago
  As explained almost everywhere, losing your job under an H1B visa is a huge pain. The brightest student in my class is working for Microsoft on an H1B. He's relatively happy and he's managed to "switch jobs" within Microsoft, but he's unable to leave. That's not a great way to encourage the best and brightest. I know this guy would be awesome for several Silicon Valley startups for example, but he literally has to stay in Microsoft or another high-stability company. No idea if he would get a Green Card as a person of extraordinary ability, I believe him to be, but don't know the requisites. My country has FAR less stringent requirements (yet we're not really a talent destination :) ).
  - eshvk 14y ago
    > As explained almost everywhere, losing your job under an H1B visa is a huge pain. This is exactly my problem with the H1B. The solution to this is not to have a glut of more H1Bs but to make the H1B a job portable six year visa much like a European employment visa.

eshvk 14y ago

> About half of my classmates (in a Statistics PhD program) are foreigners. These are literally the brightest statisticians of their year from their respective countries, and making it even the least bit hard for them to stay in the US is a big mistake. We could use their talent! What makes you think they are going to have a hard time to stay in the U.S.? Honestly if they are good, literally stapling a green card to their PhD once they graduate is the only thing that is going to be easier than the current system. Let me explain: You finish your PhD, you can work for a period of 27 months for any related employer under your F1 visa, then you can work for a period of 6 years on an H1B. While this is happening, your employer can file for a Green Card for you. Hell, if you are "literally the brightest statisticians of their year", you can apply for a Green Card as a person of extraordinary ability.

GFischer 14y ago
As explained almost everywhere, losing your job under an H1B visa is a huge pain. The brightest student in my class is working for Microsoft on an H1B. He's relatively happy and he's managed to "switch jobs" within Microsoft, but he's unable to leave. That's not a great way to encourage the best and brightest. I know this guy would be awesome for several Silicon Valley startups for example, but he literally has to stay in Microsoft or another high-stability company. No idea if he would get a Green Card as a person of extraordinary ability, I believe him to be, but don't know the requisites. My country has FAR less stringent requirements (yet we're not really a talent destination :) ).
- eshvk 14y ago
  > As explained almost everywhere, losing your job under an H1B visa is a huge pain. This is exactly my problem with the H1B. The solution to this is not to have a glut of more H1Bs but to make the H1B a job portable six year visa much like a European employment visa.