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*facepalm

• deleted 14y ago
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  • crindy 14y ago
    Javascript is the only language that runs in the browser. There are tons of great alternatives to PHP to run on a server.
    • ergo14 14y ago
      This comment implies like there aren't any other great alternatives for jquery in the browser. What about dojotoolkit or YUI library? I don't see how javascript is here to blame.
      • treeface 14y ago
        I think the point he's making is that you don't need to find a jQuery-like library for PHP because you can just use another language. I personally say nuts to that. With all of the latest projects, PHP development is actually getting to be pretty non-shitty.
        • tikhonj 14y ago
          "Non-shitty" is a pretty low bar though. When you have a wide variety of choices, you may as well hold out for "good" or "great", even if it means learning a new language, some new technologies or even a new mindset. Having to learn something or spend some time setting things up is a trivial cost for any non-trivial project: increasing your productivity when programming or maintaining code is a very good return on investment.
    • Pitarou 14y ago
      Not always. I am obliged to use PHP at the moment.
    • sergiosgc 14y ago
      Unconstructive comment. Which alternatives, and why? I don't think there's even one which is a clear cut alternative (where the downsides are minor, when compared with the upsides). On speed alone, PHP gets a huge head start when comparing alternatives. Note that I'm not saying PHP is great. It's a cesspool of language defects. However, it's success has merit.
      • ergo14 14y ago
        Ok, please use any decent php web framework and compare the speed to lets say python/ruby - not to mention something like pypy. "Hello World" is not world-like performance benchmark.
        • jtreminio 14y ago
          Why would you compare a PHP framework to either Python or Ruby?
          • camus 14y ago
            because people do not develop web-apps with bare python/ruby
            • jtreminio 14y ago
              Sorry, I don't think what you wrote makes any sense. He's comparing "any decent php web framework" to Python or Ruby, because neither of those languages are used without frameworks to develop web-apps?
              • ergo14 14y ago
                No, because php is rarely used to develop applications without proper level of abstraction - so it makes sense to compare apples to apples.
• ergo14 14y ago
  It kind of resembles of what a wildly popular javascript lib does isn't it?