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Apple is far more efficient than companies like Google or Microsoft when it comes to reasearch. In the last 15 years, they have produced the iPod, iPhone, iPad

by nirvana 14y ago

Apple is far more efficient than companies like Google or Microsoft when it comes to reasearch. In the last 15 years, they have produced the iPod, iPhone, iPad, radically different computer designs, OS X, Final Cut, and quite a few other products. Over the same period, google has produced PageRank. Microsoft has produced nothing innovative. Apple pays less of its revenue in R&D, but that's because its revenue is so big.

rdouble 14y ago
Microsoft has produced nothing innovative. The Kinect was pretty cool.
rednukleus 14y ago
> Over the same period, google has produced PageRank. Microsoft has produced nothing innovative. What are you, an idiot? Seriously. EDIT: Downvote away, I stand by my comment - parent has got to be the dumbest thing I've read on HN for a while and deserves to be called out on it.
- jychang 14y ago
  It's a very fanboyish argument, I agree. Self driving cars don't fund themselves.
MichaelGG 14y ago
Where's Apple's equivalent to MSR[1]? I found ATG[2], but closed by Jobs in 97. Microsoft does a huge amount of research, and publishes tons of papers. Google publishes papers, too. Does Apple do that kind of stuff at all? Perhaps work on LLVM and stuff. Maybe you mean Apple's done a better job of bringing products to market, which is probably arguably true. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Research 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Technology_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Technology_Group
- r00fus 14y ago
  What has MSR done for me (or hell, even Microsoft) lately? Has any of their research been applied into usable value or changed the scope of human knowledge for the rest of us? I seriously want to know.
Zikes 14y ago
I think you might be slightly underestimating what Google has produced[1] in its 15 year lifetime. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products

by nirvana 14y ago

rdouble 14y ago

Microsoft has produced nothing innovative. The Kinect was pretty cool.

rednukleus 14y ago

> Over the same period, google has produced PageRank. Microsoft has produced nothing innovative. What are you, an idiot? Seriously. EDIT: Downvote away, I stand by my comment - parent has got to be the dumbest thing I've read on HN for a while and deserves to be called out on it.

jychang 14y ago
It's a very fanboyish argument, I agree. Self driving cars don't fund themselves.

MichaelGG 14y ago

Where's Apple's equivalent to MSR[1]? I found ATG[2], but closed by Jobs in 97. Microsoft does a huge amount of research, and publishes tons of papers. Google publishes papers, too. Does Apple do that kind of stuff at all? Perhaps work on LLVM and stuff. Maybe you mean Apple's done a better job of bringing products to market, which is probably arguably true. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Research 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Technology_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Technology_Group

r00fus 14y ago
What has MSR done for me (or hell, even Microsoft) lately? Has any of their research been applied into usable value or changed the scope of human knowledge for the rest of us? I seriously want to know.

Zikes 14y ago

I think you might be slightly underestimating what Google has produced[1] in its 15 year lifetime. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products