> there are probably a lot of women with the potential to become good programmers and it would be a shame to exclude them. Right, but while growing up they're

> there are probably a lot of women with the potential to become good programmers and it would be a shame to exclude them. Right, but while growing up they're being excluded by their friends and parents who say "ew programming? That's for nerdy losers!" Not by the companies that say "hmm, female engineers are only 10% of engineers, guess we can't expect more than 10% at our company".