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I will be the first to ask: why did Alex / the pypy devs start this project? I thought the three community funded ideas were great (STM, Python 3, and Numpy). W

I will be the first to ask: why did Alex / the pypy devs start this project? I thought the three community funded ideas were great (STM, Python 3, and Numpy). What prompted this new project? Is it meant to attract new developers to pypy as platform for implementing languages? Is it a side project? Is it a long term project meant to become the premium implementation of ruby as pypy is becoming for python? Etc. Not criticizing at all by the way, just curious about the motivation / background / context for the project, which is missing from the docs.

kingkilr 14y ago
Hi to be clear, this is project undetaken by me (Alex) independently, it wasn't funded out of the PyPy funds or anything like that. There were 3 primary motivations: a) Because it's fun b) To prove RPython is a great platform c) To mess with people's heads, it's crazy!
- lloeki 14y ago
  Hey Alex, let me tell you I completely understand points a) b) c) and more. It seems we started our competing Ruby on PyPy implementations at about the same time [0]! My goal was to build a robust and documented Ruby parser, and hope PyPy make it magically fast. To that end I embedded PLY and modified it to not require kwargs. Then a thunder of work fell from the skies, and I was just recently unearthing PyPy 1.9 to put the thing back on track. Congratulations for the release :-) [0]: $ ls -l playground/pypy total 29160 drwxr-xr-x 12 lloeki staff 408 18 Feb 2011 ply-3.4 drwxr-xr-x 15 lloeki staff 510 3 Apr 2012 pyby drwxr-xr-x 23 lloeki staff 782 27 Mar 2012 pypy-pypy-2346207d9946 drwxr-xr-x 18 lloeki staff 612 27 Mar 2012 pypy-tutorial -rw-r--r-- 1 lloeki staff 14927806 27 Mar 2012 release-1.8.tar.bz2 drwxr-xr-x 10 lloeki staff 340 3 Apr 2012 unholy
  - lloeki 14y ago
    Holy snakes[0]. It seems you pursued the exact same approach[1] as me :-) [0]: https://github.com/topazproject/topaz/blob/master/topaz/lexer.py#L6 https://github.com/topazproject/topaz/blob/master/topaz/lexe... [1]: https://github.com/alex/rply https://github.com/alex/rply

kingkilr 14y ago

Hi to be clear, this is project undetaken by me (Alex) independently, it wasn't funded out of the PyPy funds or anything like that. There were 3 primary motivations: a) Because it's fun b) To prove RPython is a great platform c) To mess with people's heads, it's crazy!

lloeki 14y ago
Hey Alex, let me tell you I completely understand points a) b) c) and more. It seems we started our competing Ruby on PyPy implementations at about the same time [0]! My goal was to build a robust and documented Ruby parser, and hope PyPy make it magically fast. To that end I embedded PLY and modified it to not require kwargs. Then a thunder of work fell from the skies, and I was just recently unearthing PyPy 1.9 to put the thing back on track. Congratulations for the release :-) [0]: $ ls -l playground/pypy total 29160 drwxr-xr-x 12 lloeki staff 408 18 Feb 2011 ply-3.4 drwxr-xr-x 15 lloeki staff 510 3 Apr 2012 pyby drwxr-xr-x 23 lloeki staff 782 27 Mar 2012 pypy-pypy-2346207d9946 drwxr-xr-x 18 lloeki staff 612 27 Mar 2012 pypy-tutorial -rw-r--r-- 1 lloeki staff 14927806 27 Mar 2012 release-1.8.tar.bz2 drwxr-xr-x 10 lloeki staff 340 3 Apr 2012 unholy
- lloeki 14y ago
  Holy snakes[0]. It seems you pursued the exact same approach[1] as me :-) [0]: https://github.com/topazproject/topaz/blob/master/topaz/lexer.py#L6 https://github.com/topazproject/topaz/blob/master/topaz/lexe... [1]: https://github.com/alex/rply https://github.com/alex/rply