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Yes, last year for Debian DVDs. Also, AGit (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madgag.agit&hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co

Yes, last year for Debian DVDs. Also, AGit (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madgag.agit&hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madgag.agi...) and MobileOrg (http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/ http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/), etc. Your point . . . ?

danielweber 14y ago
I took his point as either 1. if people would just accept that they need to buy software, it would be easy to charge for it, and it would be easy to support it 2. "hey, it was free, ass-wipe" [1] Either way I approve. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8x5hbdaPM&feature=youtu.be&t=5m30s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8x5hbdaPM&feature=youtu...
- npsimons 14y ago
  Neither one of those points is necessarily true. Especially point the first, where margins on software were ridiculously inflated by certain companies, with no discernable change in software quality. Just as one example, apparently paying $59 for something that should have already worked, that you already paid for, doesn't mean it will be fixed: http://toddsnotes.blogspot.com/2009/11/microsoft-genius-error-occurred-while.html http://toddsnotes.blogspot.com/2009/11/microsoft-genius-erro... As for the "ass-wipes can't be choosers" argument, that's just flat out unprofessional. If you were building a house for Habitat for Humanity, would you slack off and not hammer all the nails in because "hey, it was free, ass-wipe"? Maybe my point of view is skewed, because in one of the charities I volunteer for, doing something half-assed is fairly certain to get someone killed. I get that OSS isn't always someone's day job, they may not have enough time to handle bug reports or documentation, etc, etc. But as the solutions to supporting an OSS project go, ignoring bug reports or making them hard to file rank pretty low. If someone doesn't have the time to handle the load, they need to communicate that. Post it on the project page. Put out a call for help to other volunteers. Have the bug reporting system autorespond that the project is not moving very fast. At least let your users know where they stand.
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danielweber 14y ago

I took his point as either 1. if people would just accept that they need to buy software, it would be easy to charge for it, and it would be easy to support it 2. "hey, it was free, ass-wipe" [1] Either way I approve. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8x5hbdaPM&feature=youtu.be&t=5m30s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8x5hbdaPM&feature=youtu...

npsimons 14y ago
Neither one of those points is necessarily true. Especially point the first, where margins on software were ridiculously inflated by certain companies, with no discernable change in software quality. Just as one example, apparently paying $59 for something that should have already worked, that you already paid for, doesn't mean it will be fixed: http://toddsnotes.blogspot.com/2009/11/microsoft-genius-error-occurred-while.html http://toddsnotes.blogspot.com/2009/11/microsoft-genius-erro... As for the "ass-wipes can't be choosers" argument, that's just flat out unprofessional. If you were building a house for Habitat for Humanity, would you slack off and not hammer all the nails in because "hey, it was free, ass-wipe"? Maybe my point of view is skewed, because in one of the charities I volunteer for, doing something half-assed is fairly certain to get someone killed. I get that OSS isn't always someone's day job, they may not have enough time to handle bug reports or documentation, etc, etc. But as the solutions to supporting an OSS project go, ignoring bug reports or making them hard to file rank pretty low. If someone doesn't have the time to handle the load, they need to communicate that. Post it on the project page. Put out a call for help to other volunteers. Have the bug reporting system autorespond that the project is not moving very fast. At least let your users know where they stand.
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