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People don't use computers anymore. They use tablets. This is a tablet, which can double as a computer for reading .doc files, and running .exe programs. Remem

by wisty 14y ago

People don't use computers anymore. They use tablets. This is a tablet, which can double as a computer for reading .doc files, and running .exe programs. Remember when people used to buy laptops, and people like us used to say "don't be stupid, just buy a powerful white-box for half the price; it's going to spend 90% of its time on your desk anyway ... and if you really need portability just buy a cheap laptop as a second computer."? It's all happening again, and Microsoft has just realised it got left behind.

andrewfelix 14y ago
"This is a tablet" It beggars belief that Microsoft could consider this competitive as a tablet. As a laptop, the power and price point makes sense. But as a tablet it's thick, heavy, has very poor battery life and 99% of meaningful Windows software wasn't optimised for touch. I was actually considering purchasing one of these. But watching reviewers attempt to use this thing as a tablet depresses me. I'm probably dreaming, but I would love to see Microsoft just make a really nice touch screen laptop with the same design aesthetic as the Surface.
pkorzeniewski 14y ago
I can't think about one person I know that use tablet for any serious stuff, me included, it's just used for checking mails, reading ebooks and playing games. Even then I think everyone prefers surfing on the web using computer rather than on a small screen, not to mention playing more advanced games or using office suites, which are widely used even by 'common' users. So saying that people don't use computers anymore is in my opinion a bit over the top.
- yareally 14y ago
  I agree. If you live in the online world of the Apple or Android forums (or even many tech sites/blogs), it would appear that computers are "dead" if you use them as an indication of usage. However, in the real world outside of the forums that are enamored by the latest and greatest toys put out by tablet makers, I think their real world usage is far less than observed. Me personally, I get annoyed at having to use my phone (Galaxy Nexus) or tablet (2 HP Touchpads and a Nexus 7) for more than just checking mail, sending short IMs or SMS, or quickly viewing a few web pages. Doing much beyond that just requires much more time than if I did it on a PC with a keyboard and mouse. Those devices are just a way to get by when I can't be at my computer versus a replacement. I really just have them for development, but they're also fun toys to hack around on. The allure of 3 large monitors tied to a nice desktop PC is one that I don't think I can pull myself away from either for real work. Tablets for productivity just feel more like a form of masochism if one to use it to write code on even with options out there[1]. If i desperately need to do something right away, sure, but most of the time, my laptop is with me if I also have my tablet. If I didn't have the tablets, I wouldn't miss them. They're just an expensive toy to me at least. Unrelated to the above, but I think I would go for the Surface RT over the Pro now that it's been "jailbroke"[2] so you can cross compile any opensource app for it[3] and many already have been compiled[4]. Battery life is better and if you're a developer or power user, you can have a ton of fun hacking around on it now that you can self sign and compiled native apps that aren't metro. [1]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui [2]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092158 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092158 [3]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820 [4]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
mbesto 14y ago
People don't use computers anymore. Well, that's a very bold statement...
- MortenK 14y ago
  Bold indeed, and entirely wrong.
  - wisty 14y ago
    Well, it's more like 25% of sales are tablets, and it's a growing segment. I'll admit it's hyperbolic to say "everyone", though I can see tablets outselling PCs before Windows 9 comes out.
    - laumars 14y ago
      You also have to bare in mind that most people already have a computer. Where as most people don't (or at least didn't) own a tablet.
- facorreia 14y ago
  And 1 billion PC users say it's BS.
Shorel 14y ago
People don't buy computers anymore. People, on the other hand, use computers all the time. And only buy computers when then break. That's what market saturation means.

by wisty 14y ago

andrewfelix 14y ago

"This is a tablet" It beggars belief that Microsoft could consider this competitive as a tablet. As a laptop, the power and price point makes sense. But as a tablet it's thick, heavy, has very poor battery life and 99% of meaningful Windows software wasn't optimised for touch. I was actually considering purchasing one of these. But watching reviewers attempt to use this thing as a tablet depresses me. I'm probably dreaming, but I would love to see Microsoft just make a really nice touch screen laptop with the same design aesthetic as the Surface.

pkorzeniewski 14y ago

I can't think about one person I know that use tablet for any serious stuff, me included, it's just used for checking mails, reading ebooks and playing games. Even then I think everyone prefers surfing on the web using computer rather than on a small screen, not to mention playing more advanced games or using office suites, which are widely used even by 'common' users. So saying that people don't use computers anymore is in my opinion a bit over the top.

yareally 14y ago
I agree. If you live in the online world of the Apple or Android forums (or even many tech sites/blogs), it would appear that computers are "dead" if you use them as an indication of usage. However, in the real world outside of the forums that are enamored by the latest and greatest toys put out by tablet makers, I think their real world usage is far less than observed. Me personally, I get annoyed at having to use my phone (Galaxy Nexus) or tablet (2 HP Touchpads and a Nexus 7) for more than just checking mail, sending short IMs or SMS, or quickly viewing a few web pages. Doing much beyond that just requires much more time than if I did it on a PC with a keyboard and mouse. Those devices are just a way to get by when I can't be at my computer versus a replacement. I really just have them for development, but they're also fun toys to hack around on. The allure of 3 large monitors tied to a nice desktop PC is one that I don't think I can pull myself away from either for real work. Tablets for productivity just feel more like a form of masochism if one to use it to write code on even with options out there[1]. If i desperately need to do something right away, sure, but most of the time, my laptop is with me if I also have my tablet. If I didn't have the tablets, I wouldn't miss them. They're just an expensive toy to me at least. Unrelated to the above, but I think I would go for the Surface RT over the Pro now that it's been "jailbroke"[2] so you can cross compile any opensource app for it[3] and many already have been compiled[4]. Battery life is better and if you're a developer or power user, you can have a ton of fun hacking around on it now that you can self sign and compiled native apps that aren't metro. [1]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui [2]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092158 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092158 [3]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820 [4]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348

mbesto 14y ago

People don't use computers anymore. Well, that's a very bold statement...

MortenK 14y ago
Bold indeed, and entirely wrong.
- wisty 14y ago
  Well, it's more like 25% of sales are tablets, and it's a growing segment. I'll admit it's hyperbolic to say "everyone", though I can see tablets outselling PCs before Windows 9 comes out.
  - laumars 14y ago
    You also have to bare in mind that most people already have a computer. Where as most people don't (or at least didn't) own a tablet.
facorreia 14y ago
And 1 billion PC users say it's BS.

Shorel 14y ago

People don't buy computers anymore. People, on the other hand, use computers all the time. And only buy computers when then break. That's what market saturation means.