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it always bothers me if US-officials threatening to take counter measures when countries strengthen civil rights. His point is, private data is big business an
by killerpopiller 14y ago
it always bothers me if US-officials threatening to take counter measures when countries strengthen civil rights.
His point is, private data is big business and the US gov needs data to grind. We, the US won't let your liberal boundaries interfere with that.
Well, in Germany one has the "Grundrecht", the fundamental right to stay in charge of ones own data.
There are of course many problems in daily life and our data privacy laws sometimes hitting those practical limitations.
Nevertheless, enclosure movement was key in the rise of the US and it remains that way. Strong arming weaker forces out of their turfs and making profits. That is the american way, not ours.
This enclosure movement of private data means "web 2.0 the capitalistic way". We take your data, profiting and you are not. Here, have some booze and blankets.
- varjag 14y ago> Nevertheless, enclosure movement was key in the rise of the US and it remains that way. I always thought enclosure was a British thing..
- killerpopiller 14y agoenclosure movement in the sense I and e.g. Volker Grassmuck (http://waste.informatik.hu-berlin.de/grassmuck/Texts/spinner-wissenskomm.html http://waste.informatik.hu-berlin.de/grassmuck/Texts/spinner...) used, means taking/claiming common land by putting a fence around it. Thats how the wild west worked basicly. The natives haven't had the concept of property. And we don't see our own private data as "our property" as well - which pages we use, which products we buy, which X we like, where we work, adresses and so on. It isn't property, it is us and we should be able to decide what others do with those expressions. If companies earn money with it, we should profit from it as well. Don't you think. Google profits from that and in exchange we can use their services. Often we do know that we are the product. Having certain informations at certain online service deleted might just spawn new startups offering to do just that for your customers and your convenience. Gaining the trust of customers is a good thing imho.
- varjag 14y agoWell yes, enclosure/fencing was very very British thing. I was just surprised that someone referred to it as the American way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure What happened in America was very ugly colonization, but arguably not the same thing.