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Oracle don't care about happy people, and a lack of happy people dealing with Oracle has not stopped their massive profits so why would they start now? I think

Oracle don't care about happy people, and a lack of happy people dealing with Oracle has not stopped their massive profits so why would they start now? I think this is extra worse than normal bundling, because its a friggin platform! A basis for applications, it smells as bad as Microsoft asking to install a toolbar during the OS install.

yankcrime 14y ago
By bundling advert-ridden applications with their latest OS, Microsoft aren't really all that far off the mark from your comment.
- pi18n 14y ago
  I'm fine with advertisements in desktop apps. Those guys have to make money. But I think there should be a way to pay a fee and forcibly remove them even if the developer didn't code for it. It's your machine, after all.
  - yareally 14y ago
    There's ads in Microsoft bundled apps as well[1], not just third party developers. [1] http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/microsoft-cheapens-windows-8-ads http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/microsoft-cheapens-windows...
    - MatthewPhillips 14y ago
      They're in news apps, not in the email client or web browser.
- josephagoss 14y ago
  Are the advert-ridden applications made by Microsoft? If so that says something about how far they have fallen. Why compromise your brand when your making money on hardware and software?
- andyjohnson0 14y ago
  Are these applications really bundled by Microsoft or are they pre-installed [1] by OEMs that sell Win8 with their hardware? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-installed_software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-installed_software
  - yankcrime 14y ago
    If you do a clean install of Windows 8, several of the bundled applications - such as Weather - have adverts placed in them.
    - andyjohnson0 14y ago
      I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification.
- cooldeal 14y ago
  The Ask toolbar integrates itself into IE, Firefox and Chrome. It runs even when Java doesn't and is difficult to get rid of this. So this is way different than having a couple of banner ads showing up inside the app only when the app is running and you can uninstall the app in five seconds.
- Karunamon 14y ago
  The "advert-ridden" applications are without exception, storefronts. You enter an app who's purpose is to allow you to purchase videos or music, and then complain that there are ads there?
speeder 14y ago
I just remembered that Ubuntu ships with Amazon ads on their OS search bar... Seriously, how worse stuff can get? I imagine a future. A bright future. A future where everyone sees data, with Google Glasses like technology and beyond. And thus, where they have ads in front of them all the time, you arrive home, look at your daughter in the crib, and suddenly your entire vision is plastered with a semi-transparent ad for diapers, and you blink, it goes away, and another shows up, a ad for automatic cribs with quad core processor and capable of singing and telling stories on its own.
- kunai 14y ago
  Okay, the Ubuntu thing is really out-of-hand at this point. It really is not that big of a deal. One terminal command and they're gone. Seriously, Canonical is a company, and they have to pay their bills like the rest of us. The Amazon search isn't "spyware," it's nothing but an additional search lens, and you can turn it off.
- jff 14y ago
  This stupid meme is getting really fucking old.

yankcrime 14y ago

By bundling advert-ridden applications with their latest OS, Microsoft aren't really all that far off the mark from your comment.

pi18n 14y ago
I'm fine with advertisements in desktop apps. Those guys have to make money. But I think there should be a way to pay a fee and forcibly remove them even if the developer didn't code for it. It's your machine, after all.
- yareally 14y ago
  There's ads in Microsoft bundled apps as well[1], not just third party developers. [1] http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/microsoft-cheapens-windows-8-ads http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/microsoft-cheapens-windows...
  - MatthewPhillips 14y ago
    They're in news apps, not in the email client or web browser.
josephagoss 14y ago
Are the advert-ridden applications made by Microsoft? If so that says something about how far they have fallen. Why compromise your brand when your making money on hardware and software?
andyjohnson0 14y ago
Are these applications really bundled by Microsoft or are they pre-installed [1] by OEMs that sell Win8 with their hardware? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-installed_software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-installed_software
- yankcrime 14y ago
  If you do a clean install of Windows 8, several of the bundled applications - such as Weather - have adverts placed in them.
  - andyjohnson0 14y ago
    I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification.
cooldeal 14y ago
The Ask toolbar integrates itself into IE, Firefox and Chrome. It runs even when Java doesn't and is difficult to get rid of this. So this is way different than having a couple of banner ads showing up inside the app only when the app is running and you can uninstall the app in five seconds.
Karunamon 14y ago
The "advert-ridden" applications are without exception, storefronts. You enter an app who's purpose is to allow you to purchase videos or music, and then complain that there are ads there?

speeder 14y ago

I just remembered that Ubuntu ships with Amazon ads on their OS search bar... Seriously, how worse stuff can get? I imagine a future. A bright future. A future where everyone sees data, with Google Glasses like technology and beyond. And thus, where they have ads in front of them all the time, you arrive home, look at your daughter in the crib, and suddenly your entire vision is plastered with a semi-transparent ad for diapers, and you blink, it goes away, and another shows up, a ad for automatic cribs with quad core processor and capable of singing and telling stories on its own.

kunai 14y ago
Okay, the Ubuntu thing is really out-of-hand at this point. It really is not that big of a deal. One terminal command and they're gone. Seriously, Canonical is a company, and they have to pay their bills like the rest of us. The Amazon search isn't "spyware," it's nothing but an additional search lens, and you can turn it off.
jff 14y ago
This stupid meme is getting really fucking old.