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Also, the fact that so far, climate change has been more extreme than most projections. Actually, warming has not occurred at all in the last 15 years or so.

Also, the fact that so far, climate change has been more extreme than most projections. Actually, warming has not occurred at all in the last 15 years or so. So how "extreme" we've been is a matter of vantage point. While I'm not in the camp to suggest the last 15 years are anything but a variation in the overall trend, be careful what you use to support dire predictions.

gus_massa 14y ago
I found some graphics that support your point: http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/overall-hadcrut-trends-as-of-march-month-end-2012/ http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/overall-had... In the 1850-2012 graph the temperature is mostly increasing, but not straightly increasing. The interesting part is the flat part at the end. It is expanded in the 1997-2012 graphic. In this period the temperature anomaly is ~.5C, it is even very slightly decreasing, but it's too noisy to take the decrees seriously. The graphs are based in the HadCrut data: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2012/hadcrut-updates http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2012/hadcr... compiled by the UK Met Office. I didn't download the data and redraw them, but in that page they have a table of yearly global average temperature of the last ~15 years. The temperature anomaly is ~.5C and the variation of the numbers look similar to the values in the graph.
MaysonL 14y ago
Ask yourself this question: if there has been no warming, what ratio would you expect between the number of record high temperatures and the number of record low temperatures, and if substantial warming had occurred, what would the ratio be, and what has actually happened. Then consider animal and plant species, their ranges, and migration patterns and dates. And examine what has happedened in those regards. Have you looked at any of these, or are you merely parroting somebody's propaganda?
- run4yourlives 14y ago
  While I'm not in the camp to suggest the last 15 years are anything but a variation in the overall trend Please read my comments before you assume my opinion.

gus_massa 14y ago

I found some graphics that support your point: http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/overall-hadcrut-trends-as-of-march-month-end-2012/ http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/overall-had... In the 1850-2012 graph the temperature is mostly increasing, but not straightly increasing. The interesting part is the flat part at the end. It is expanded in the 1997-2012 graphic. In this period the temperature anomaly is ~.5C, it is even very slightly decreasing, but it's too noisy to take the decrees seriously. The graphs are based in the HadCrut data: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2012/hadcrut-updates http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2012/hadcr... compiled by the UK Met Office. I didn't download the data and redraw them, but in that page they have a table of yearly global average temperature of the last ~15 years. The temperature anomaly is ~.5C and the variation of the numbers look similar to the values in the graph.

MaysonL 14y ago

Ask yourself this question: if there has been no warming, what ratio would you expect between the number of record high temperatures and the number of record low temperatures, and if substantial warming had occurred, what would the ratio be, and what has actually happened. Then consider animal and plant species, their ranges, and migration patterns and dates. And examine what has happedened in those regards. Have you looked at any of these, or are you merely parroting somebody's propaganda?

run4yourlives 14y ago
While I'm not in the camp to suggest the last 15 years are anything but a variation in the overall trend Please read my comments before you assume my opinion.