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Don't coders use Mutt ? :] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_(email_client) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_(email_client)

IheartApplesDix 14y ago
Considering Mutt supports PGP, and this doesn't seem to, yes.
- fxtentacle 14y ago
  You're correct on that one. I built this client to make my work with email better. I'm not sure if i have ever received an email with PGP and i'm pretty sure that it would confuse half to all of my colleagues ...
  - dfc 14y ago
    You need to find better colleagues. Plus multipart mime makes it a lot less confusing for people who do not understand pgp signatures. Long gone are the days where you have to have a giant block of random characters appended to the body of your message.
    - roel_v 14y ago
      Not true. I stopped signing my emails 10-ish years ago because I kept getting people mailing me back that they 'couldn't open my attachments'.
      - dfc 14y ago
        With multipart mime messages you no longer have a large block of random characters at the bottom of the body of your message. This is a fact. Moreover the mail clients now treat pgp and smime signature attachments in more intuitive manner so users are not tempted to try and open them as easily. Most importantly know your audience, grandma does not need to have your vacation recap emails signed.
  - IheartApplesDix 14y ago
    well since you're working on a mail interface... maybe you could try a frictionless PGP encryption option in the interface? It might be something you at least build a prototype or placeholder for so that it can be implemented fully when going open source.
dfc 14y ago
I always had trouble with the lack of a folder list in mutt. My friend is close to convincing me to give the mutt-patched package in debian a chance.[1] All I need to do is find a decent muttrc that is not super tweaked like my friend's config and then stumble along until I figure out what I need to change. For some reason I have always been confused/overwhelmed/putt-off by the coloring schemes when I have used mutt in the past. [1] Patch: http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/ http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/ [2] Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/screenshots/m/mutt-patched/456_large.png http://screenshots.debian.net/screenshots/m/mutt-patched/456...
- spindritf 14y ago
  Walk-through for mutt configuration https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156
- jason_slack 14y ago
  I have always wanted to run the mutt-patched on my osx machine but can never get it configured correctly. Any chance there are binaries or better instructions?
  - dfc 14y ago
    The HN link below contains a great walkthrough for osx and mutt-patched. It even includes a keychain setup process. With homebrew its as easy as: brew install mutt --sidebar-patch The link to the walkthrough is: http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ There are also some helpful comments in the hn discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156
fxtentacle 14y ago
well i heard about it at university but i dislike it since it's not appropriate for those graphical emails that i get
- leephillips 14y ago
  It is when you use muttils, that I describe at http://lee-phillips.org/muttheaven/ http://lee-phillips.org/muttheaven/
icebraining 14y ago
I prefer Alpine.
npsimons 14y ago
Yes, even on my N900 where I have Emacs+Org-Mode, I still SSH in to my mail server and run mutt. Mostly because I'm lazy, but also because every other mail client I've ever tried has just sucked more :)

IheartApplesDix 14y ago

Considering Mutt supports PGP, and this doesn't seem to, yes.

fxtentacle 14y ago
You're correct on that one. I built this client to make my work with email better. I'm not sure if i have ever received an email with PGP and i'm pretty sure that it would confuse half to all of my colleagues ...
- dfc 14y ago
  You need to find better colleagues. Plus multipart mime makes it a lot less confusing for people who do not understand pgp signatures. Long gone are the days where you have to have a giant block of random characters appended to the body of your message.
  - roel_v 14y ago
    Not true. I stopped signing my emails 10-ish years ago because I kept getting people mailing me back that they 'couldn't open my attachments'.
    - dfc 14y ago
      With multipart mime messages you no longer have a large block of random characters at the bottom of the body of your message. This is a fact. Moreover the mail clients now treat pgp and smime signature attachments in more intuitive manner so users are not tempted to try and open them as easily. Most importantly know your audience, grandma does not need to have your vacation recap emails signed.
- IheartApplesDix 14y ago
  well since you're working on a mail interface... maybe you could try a frictionless PGP encryption option in the interface? It might be something you at least build a prototype or placeholder for so that it can be implemented fully when going open source.

dfc 14y ago

I always had trouble with the lack of a folder list in mutt. My friend is close to convincing me to give the mutt-patched package in debian a chance.[1] All I need to do is find a decent muttrc that is not super tweaked like my friend's config and then stumble along until I figure out what I need to change. For some reason I have always been confused/overwhelmed/putt-off by the coloring schemes when I have used mutt in the past. [1] Patch: http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/ http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/ [2] Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/screenshots/m/mutt-patched/456_large.png http://screenshots.debian.net/screenshots/m/mutt-patched/456...

spindritf 14y ago
Walk-through for mutt configuration https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156
jason_slack 14y ago
I have always wanted to run the mutt-patched on my osx machine but can never get it configured correctly. Any chance there are binaries or better instructions?
- dfc 14y ago
  The HN link below contains a great walkthrough for osx and mutt-patched. It even includes a keychain setup process. With homebrew its as easy as: brew install mutt --sidebar-patch The link to the walkthrough is: http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ There are also some helpful comments in the hn discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4597156

fxtentacle 14y ago

well i heard about it at university but i dislike it since it's not appropriate for those graphical emails that i get

leephillips 14y ago
It is when you use muttils, that I describe at http://lee-phillips.org/muttheaven/ http://lee-phillips.org/muttheaven/

icebraining 14y ago

I prefer Alpine.

npsimons 14y ago

Yes, even on my N900 where I have Emacs+Org-Mode, I still SSH in to my mail server and run mutt. Mostly because I'm lazy, but also because every other mail client I've ever tried has just sucked more :)