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Looks awesome! Nice work. I don't know how I feel about the closed source -> kickstarter -> open source model. Why not just put it on github now and get people

by zaius 14y ago

Looks awesome! Nice work. I don't know how I feel about the closed source -> kickstarter -> open source model. Why not just put it on github now and get people using it? Unrelated to the product, but I'd change your highlighting on the site to something other than blue - ux wise it makes me think it's going to be a link.

fxtentacle 14y ago
thanks :) the GUI is mostly Twitter Bootstrap + Font Awesome + GWT I was also not so sure about using Kickstarter for source code, but then i stumbled upon Light Table, which is a coding tool sold there. I'd really like to continue working on it to make it more polished and for that i need some way to get money out of it. I could, of course, try to sell it as a SaaS project, but that would block people from hacking it.
- dfc 14y ago
  I'm all for open source and all for you having a roof over your head. I think its a great model. I wish you the best of luck.
- zaius 14y ago
  Definitely still do the kickstarter. What I meant was I think you'll have better luck on the kickstarter if it's open source to begin with. I'd feel uneasy giving money to a kickstarter project that could stay closed source. I think you should also offer it as a SaaS once you get it up and running. Being open source doesn't stop you from doing that. Then you get the best of both worlds.
  - fxtentacle 14y ago
    Thank you for the explanation. Yes, paying for a project which then fails would suck. I'll send the binaries around and upload them once i get around to packaging them (probably tomorrow). For the kickstarter i was planning on making the current state of the project open source as soon as the funding is reached. Do you think that would also work? I mean if i open source the whole thing beforehand, why should someone participate in the kickstarter when they can get also get it for free (although unfinished) right away? As for SaaS, i'd say that the client should run on the user's computer in any case, just to make stuff really fast :) Hosting the IMAP-Synchronization-Gateway might work, though.
    - Vivtek 14y ago
      You're presumably the best person to work on finishing it. Don't underestimate that position and the respect it can earn you. (edit) I guess, emotionally speaking, I'm in the position that if it were already on Github, I would actually fund your Kickstarter. I mean, right now. As it is, no, I'm not going to, for the reasons I explained in my comment upthread.

by zaius 14y ago

fxtentacle 14y ago

thanks :) the GUI is mostly Twitter Bootstrap + Font Awesome + GWT I was also not so sure about using Kickstarter for source code, but then i stumbled upon Light Table, which is a coding tool sold there. I'd really like to continue working on it to make it more polished and for that i need some way to get money out of it. I could, of course, try to sell it as a SaaS project, but that would block people from hacking it.

dfc 14y ago
I'm all for open source and all for you having a roof over your head. I think its a great model. I wish you the best of luck.
zaius 14y ago
Definitely still do the kickstarter. What I meant was I think you'll have better luck on the kickstarter if it's open source to begin with. I'd feel uneasy giving money to a kickstarter project that could stay closed source. I think you should also offer it as a SaaS once you get it up and running. Being open source doesn't stop you from doing that. Then you get the best of both worlds.
- fxtentacle 14y ago
  Thank you for the explanation. Yes, paying for a project which then fails would suck. I'll send the binaries around and upload them once i get around to packaging them (probably tomorrow). For the kickstarter i was planning on making the current state of the project open source as soon as the funding is reached. Do you think that would also work? I mean if i open source the whole thing beforehand, why should someone participate in the kickstarter when they can get also get it for free (although unfinished) right away? As for SaaS, i'd say that the client should run on the user's computer in any case, just to make stuff really fast :) Hosting the IMAP-Synchronization-Gateway might work, though.
  - Vivtek 14y ago
    You're presumably the best person to work on finishing it. Don't underestimate that position and the respect it can earn you. (edit) I guess, emotionally speaking, I'm in the position that if it were already on Github, I would actually fund your Kickstarter. I mean, right now. As it is, no, I'm not going to, for the reasons I explained in my comment upthread.