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It's interesting that you say "couldn't care less if their victim is a women or black person, or whatever". Can you come up with a good example of this kind of

It's interesting that you say "couldn't care less if their victim is a women or black person, or whatever". Can you come up with a good example of this kind of extreme attacking of a white man? You say "How would this look for a guy", I honestly can't think of any examples where people go anywhere near as far trolling and harassing white men. I may of course just be forgetting some obvious cases.

icebraining 14y ago
I can, unless you mean white straight men.
- roguecoder 14y ago
  In tech? Not that it doesn't happen in day-to-day life, but I can't think of any case where even a white, gay cis man was targeted this way during a conference or subjected to an online harassment campaign. When maddog came out there were a couple comments quoting Leviticus and that was it. Certainly the HN threads about sexual orientation are almost completely free of the sort of "they're lying!" or "they're just manipulative!" or actually any sort of vitriol whatsoever (and what there is is rapidly down-voted.) This is a good thing! But if you are going to argue that straight gay men in tech are treated similarly, I'd like some citations.
randomdata 14y ago
I would suggest that harassment of white men (and men in general) usually comes in the form of attacking one's mind, rather than body. George W. Bush stands out as a notable example. I don't know of anyone posting supposed pictures of him naked, but the jokes about his intelligence were seemingly never ending.
- Firehed 14y ago
  People questioned and attacked his intelligence because of his actions, not because of his race and/or gender. I'd suggest that people who want to attack someone for whatever reason will go after low-hanging fruit (being some sort of statistical outlier), and should that not exist they'll have to go after something of actual substance. When your goal is belittling someone, an attack that requires people to actually think tends not to be terribly effective. And contrary to your suggestion, I've certainly received plenty of harassment based on my body as a white male. Less these days as I refuse to work with people who can't act like adults, but I've taken plenty of crap about my height and physical appearance (I'm 25; lots of "oh, when do you finish high school?" kind of stuff)
- guard-of-terra 14y ago
  They surely did: I remember several times when I saw Bush's monkey face mounted on top of a slightly NSFW girl.
- guard-of-terra 14y ago
  They surely did: I remember several times when I saw Bush's monkey face mounted on top of a slightly NSFW girl.

icebraining 14y ago

I can, unless you mean white straight men.

roguecoder 14y ago
In tech? Not that it doesn't happen in day-to-day life, but I can't think of any case where even a white, gay cis man was targeted this way during a conference or subjected to an online harassment campaign. When maddog came out there were a couple comments quoting Leviticus and that was it. Certainly the HN threads about sexual orientation are almost completely free of the sort of "they're lying!" or "they're just manipulative!" or actually any sort of vitriol whatsoever (and what there is is rapidly down-voted.) This is a good thing! But if you are going to argue that straight gay men in tech are treated similarly, I'd like some citations.

randomdata 14y ago

I would suggest that harassment of white men (and men in general) usually comes in the form of attacking one's mind, rather than body. George W. Bush stands out as a notable example. I don't know of anyone posting supposed pictures of him naked, but the jokes about his intelligence were seemingly never ending.

Firehed 14y ago
People questioned and attacked his intelligence because of his actions, not because of his race and/or gender. I'd suggest that people who want to attack someone for whatever reason will go after low-hanging fruit (being some sort of statistical outlier), and should that not exist they'll have to go after something of actual substance. When your goal is belittling someone, an attack that requires people to actually think tends not to be terribly effective. And contrary to your suggestion, I've certainly received plenty of harassment based on my body as a white male. Less these days as I refuse to work with people who can't act like adults, but I've taken plenty of crap about my height and physical appearance (I'm 25; lots of "oh, when do you finish high school?" kind of stuff)
guard-of-terra 14y ago
They surely did: I remember several times when I saw Bush's monkey face mounted on top of a slightly NSFW girl.
guard-of-terra 14y ago
They surely did: I remember several times when I saw Bush's monkey face mounted on top of a slightly NSFW girl.