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The same factories will produce different quality items depending on the design and how much they get paid. Not an anecdote for once... One of our clients is

by meaty 14y ago

The same factories will produce different quality items depending on the design and how much they get paid. Not an anecdote for once... One of our clients is a large insurer who have just dumped HP due to reliability problems. They have approximately 3000 laptops in the field. The were all HP business line (EliteBook and ProBook) Their failure rate in a year was nearly 25% for HP kit. Moving to Lenovo, they've got a 4% failure rate now. Now for anecdotes: I've owned two HP workstations (one PA-RISC and one Intel) and both blew up spectacularly, one HP laptop (about 10 years ago - an OmniBook) and it blew up. They stick dynamite in the damn things.

brudgers 14y ago
Contrary anecdote. I have an HP laptop from 2004 I still use for some tasks. I have an HP11c I use almost daily. None of which proves the new device is any good.
- veemjeem 14y ago
  I don't think yours is contrary; you're probably a data point in the other 75% that didn't fail. I don't think a single data point could ever be contrary to anything since it would never represent an aggregate. Since I have a dead HP notebook, I could claim that I have a 100% failure rate using your logic.
kunai 14y ago
Wow, that is the first time I've ever heard anyone talk about a RISC processor in about 8 years. I don't know what was wrong with your computers, but I've owned 4 HP notebooks, and all have performed spectacularly. They're built solidly and have (for the most part) good hardware-software integration. As with any OEM, there are going to be products at the high and low ends of the line, and similarly there are going to be several failing models. With HP, I think it really is hit-or-miss. You either get a good computer, or you get a bad one. While my HPs have been good, my friend's G71 hard disk failed. I've been wary of what I purchase from them, and how it's assembled, but it seems to have worked. Computers are computers, and the #1 thing to fail in them is the user. The #2 thing to fail is the software, and the #3 thing to fail is the hard disk. It's very rare that new PCs come out of any factory with a fried mobo or CPU. It's just a matter of sifting through all of the junk to find the few hidden gems. HP has a problem with QC, but if you look enough, you'll find great products at even better prices.
- meaty 14y ago
  Apart from ARM that is :)
  - kunai 14y ago
    I think it would be really cool to see RISC have a resurgence on desktops in the form of 64-bit ARM chips. ARM technology is getting better and better every day. One of these days x86-64 is going to be antiquated, and by then, imagine the possibilities! Thinner, more powerful convertible laptops, ultra-slim workstations, 20-hour battery life... The possibilities are endless.
    - meaty 14y ago
      It will happen. It better do as I'm an ARM Holdings shareholder. It has happened before. I had a 32-bit ARM desktop once: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes

by meaty 14y ago

brudgers 14y ago

Contrary anecdote. I have an HP laptop from 2004 I still use for some tasks. I have an HP11c I use almost daily. None of which proves the new device is any good.

veemjeem 14y ago
I don't think yours is contrary; you're probably a data point in the other 75% that didn't fail. I don't think a single data point could ever be contrary to anything since it would never represent an aggregate. Since I have a dead HP notebook, I could claim that I have a 100% failure rate using your logic.

kunai 14y ago

Wow, that is the first time I've ever heard anyone talk about a RISC processor in about 8 years. I don't know what was wrong with your computers, but I've owned 4 HP notebooks, and all have performed spectacularly. They're built solidly and have (for the most part) good hardware-software integration. As with any OEM, there are going to be products at the high and low ends of the line, and similarly there are going to be several failing models. With HP, I think it really is hit-or-miss. You either get a good computer, or you get a bad one. While my HPs have been good, my friend's G71 hard disk failed. I've been wary of what I purchase from them, and how it's assembled, but it seems to have worked. Computers are computers, and the #1 thing to fail in them is the user. The #2 thing to fail is the software, and the #3 thing to fail is the hard disk. It's very rare that new PCs come out of any factory with a fried mobo or CPU. It's just a matter of sifting through all of the junk to find the few hidden gems. HP has a problem with QC, but if you look enough, you'll find great products at even better prices.

meaty 14y ago
Apart from ARM that is :)
- kunai 14y ago
  I think it would be really cool to see RISC have a resurgence on desktops in the form of 64-bit ARM chips. ARM technology is getting better and better every day. One of these days x86-64 is going to be antiquated, and by then, imagine the possibilities! Thinner, more powerful convertible laptops, ultra-slim workstations, 20-hour battery life... The possibilities are endless.
  - meaty 14y ago
    It will happen. It better do as I'm an ARM Holdings shareholder. It has happened before. I had a 32-bit ARM desktop once: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes