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Steve Wozniak was working on the prototype Apple I as a hobby and that's all it would have been without Steve Jobs. Jobs convinced him it could be a business.

by huxley 14y ago

Steve Wozniak was working on the prototype Apple I as a hobby and that's all it would have been without Steve Jobs. Jobs convinced him it could be a business. Jobs had to sell his minivan and Wozniak's calculator to build the first batch of computers to sell at local computer shops. Jobs had to cajole and motivate Wozniak into being part of Apple Computer Inc rather than just an HP employee who gave away circuit board diagrams at HomeBrew meetings in his spare time. Once the story of the Mac begins, Wozniak was practically retired, working mostly on education and coming up with neat ideas for remote controls. Jobs was motivating and cajoling the generations of brilliant engineers that would make the Mac, the NeXT Cube, the iMac, iPod, iPhone, and iPad. Jobs was never a sales guy, he needed other people to do that. He was a motivator and a critic.

laumars 14y ago
I'm aware of all of that, but it doesn't change anything that I said. Steve still depended on others to produce the goods - what you posted there just confirms my point. Also, I will concede that he's more than a salesman - as you stated about him motivating. However that doesn't make him an inventor, creator, designer, engineer nor any of the other attributes people credit him with.
- huxley 14y ago
  By that argument, no director could have been said to have ever created a film. The cinematographer did the photography, the scriptwriter did the writing, the SFX department did the effects, etc. Woz did a spectacular job with the Apple I design, but it wasn't the only kit available at the time. And even then he used off-the-shelf parts like the MOS 6502. Matter of fact, a kit that slightly predated the Apple I was the KIM-1, which also used the 6502. Difference was that the KIM-1's designer Chuck Peddle also designed the 6502 processor (yep, the one Wozniak used). Steve Jobs kept going throughout the years, long after Wozniak stopped: the original Mac, the NeXT computer, NeXTSTEP, Mac OS X, iPod, iPhone, iPad, iOS, all of these were as much the creation of Steve Jobs as Yojimbo was Akira Kurosawa's creation or 2001: A Space Odyssey was Stanley Kubrick's film.

by huxley 14y ago

laumars 14y ago

I'm aware of all of that, but it doesn't change anything that I said. Steve still depended on others to produce the goods - what you posted there just confirms my point. Also, I will concede that he's more than a salesman - as you stated about him motivating. However that doesn't make him an inventor, creator, designer, engineer nor any of the other attributes people credit him with.

huxley 14y ago
By that argument, no director could have been said to have ever created a film. The cinematographer did the photography, the scriptwriter did the writing, the SFX department did the effects, etc. Woz did a spectacular job with the Apple I design, but it wasn't the only kit available at the time. And even then he used off-the-shelf parts like the MOS 6502. Matter of fact, a kit that slightly predated the Apple I was the KIM-1, which also used the 6502. Difference was that the KIM-1's designer Chuck Peddle also designed the 6502 processor (yep, the one Wozniak used). Steve Jobs kept going throughout the years, long after Wozniak stopped: the original Mac, the NeXT computer, NeXTSTEP, Mac OS X, iPod, iPhone, iPad, iOS, all of these were as much the creation of Steve Jobs as Yojimbo was Akira Kurosawa's creation or 2001: A Space Odyssey was Stanley Kubrick's film.