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Really this is a big deal? I remember soda stream from the 80's in the UK. I'm sure they even eventually had official coke and Pepsi syrups that could be used w

by dazzla 14y ago

Really this is a big deal? I remember soda stream from the 80's in the UK. I'm sure they even eventually had official coke and Pepsi syrups that could be used with them. Didn't kill the market there and I'm sure it won't here. Seams like they've been in business since 1903. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodastream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodastream

jmccree 14y ago
The whole "being green" thing has contributed a lot to their recent success. Also their flavors (afaik) use actual sugar instead of HFCS and diet flavors have no aspartame. I use mine just to make soda water and love it.
- evolve2k 14y ago
  Are their green claims just 'greenwash'? Im thinking disposable CO2 canisters can't be that good for the environment either?
  - learc83 14y ago
    >Im thinking disposable CO2 canisters can't be that good for the environment either? Who's disposing of those things, they are much cheaper to swap out.
  - dlwh 14y ago
    They're not disposable. They reuse them. You get a rather sizable discount (50%) for giving an empty one back when you get a new one.
    - tmzt 14y ago
      I wonder why they don't market that more widely, I was looking for refills around a display and couldn't find them. There was nothing about where or how to get a canister that I could find on the outer packaging.
  - jmccree 14y ago
    The CO2 canisters are refilled/exchanged and not disposable. It certainly passes the smell test to me and they have a ton of info on their carbon footprint on the website. For me, I love the convenience of not having to go buy bottles of soda water and then recycling them after. You just fill the sodastream bottle, carbonate, drink, rinse, repeat.
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    Even if the canisters were disposed instead of reused, recycling metals is ridiculously efficient.
  - jbrowning 14y ago
    Not only are the canisters "not disposable", they also are not the property of the purchaser of a SodaStream device. Instead, canisters remain property of SodaStream and are licensed to the purchaser. http://www.sodastreamusa.com/Assets/ULC.jpg http://www.sodastreamusa.com/Assets/ULC.jpg
- X-Istence 14y ago
  I've looked at it before, but never taken the plunge. Well worth it? I go through about 2 liters of soda water a day, if not more...
  - A1kmm 14y ago
    SodaStream tries everything they can to stop people competing with them to refill their gas cylinders or supply competing gas cylinders for use with the equipment they sell, and have largely succeeded, allowing them to sell carbon dioxide at a significant mark up. For comparison, considering only the cost of obtaining carbonated water, and assuming water is free (since it isn't a significant cost), in New Zealand dollars: 1 L of store bought carbonated water: ~$0.99 1 L of water at the lowest Sodastream carbonation: $0.20 (assuming $12 / 450g of CO2, 450g makes 60L). 1 L of water using market rate food grade CO2: $0.0032 (assuming a 3.5 kg cylinder makes 467 L and costs $15 to fill). Note that if you do buy a cylinder, there are additional costs (in NZ, a cylinder must have a safety warrant of fitness issued in the last three years to be filled, which costs ~$15 - so that is an additional $5/year to add to the cost of ownership). This article provides information on the DIY approach: http://m.popsci.com/diy/article/2012-06/how-make-your-own-home-carbonation-system http://m.popsci.com/diy/article/2012-06/how-make-your-own-ho...
    - X-Istence 14y ago
      If I am currently paying $1 per bottle of store bought (2L) club soda, and I get make 2 L of water using Sodastream for $0.80, I will make my money back in no time (considering I drink 3+ liter a day). Sure it might be cheaper to go food grade and do it that way, but I am more than happy saving even a smaller amount of money, because it adds up quick.
  - Osiris 14y ago
    Who drinks just pure soda water? I'm American and I never see this. My wife visited the Ukraine and it's apparently quite common there. I also found Argentina drinks a lot of "agua con gas". Still, I'm just fine with plain flat water and some ice.

by dazzla 14y ago

jmccree 14y ago

The whole "being green" thing has contributed a lot to their recent success. Also their flavors (afaik) use actual sugar instead of HFCS and diet flavors have no aspartame. I use mine just to make soda water and love it.

evolve2k 14y ago
Are their green claims just 'greenwash'? Im thinking disposable CO2 canisters can't be that good for the environment either?
- learc83 14y ago
  >Im thinking disposable CO2 canisters can't be that good for the environment either? Who's disposing of those things, they are much cheaper to swap out.
- dlwh 14y ago
  They're not disposable. They reuse them. You get a rather sizable discount (50%) for giving an empty one back when you get a new one.
  - tmzt 14y ago
    I wonder why they don't market that more widely, I was looking for refills around a display and couldn't find them. There was nothing about where or how to get a canister that I could find on the outer packaging.
- jmccree 14y ago
  The CO2 canisters are refilled/exchanged and not disposable. It certainly passes the smell test to me and they have a ton of info on their carbon footprint on the website. For me, I love the convenience of not having to go buy bottles of soda water and then recycling them after. You just fill the sodastream bottle, carbonate, drink, rinse, repeat.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  Even if the canisters were disposed instead of reused, recycling metals is ridiculously efficient.
- jbrowning 14y ago
  Not only are the canisters "not disposable", they also are not the property of the purchaser of a SodaStream device. Instead, canisters remain property of SodaStream and are licensed to the purchaser. http://www.sodastreamusa.com/Assets/ULC.jpg http://www.sodastreamusa.com/Assets/ULC.jpg
X-Istence 14y ago
I've looked at it before, but never taken the plunge. Well worth it? I go through about 2 liters of soda water a day, if not more...
- A1kmm 14y ago
  SodaStream tries everything they can to stop people competing with them to refill their gas cylinders or supply competing gas cylinders for use with the equipment they sell, and have largely succeeded, allowing them to sell carbon dioxide at a significant mark up. For comparison, considering only the cost of obtaining carbonated water, and assuming water is free (since it isn't a significant cost), in New Zealand dollars: 1 L of store bought carbonated water: ~$0.99 1 L of water at the lowest Sodastream carbonation: $0.20 (assuming $12 / 450g of CO2, 450g makes 60L). 1 L of water using market rate food grade CO2: $0.0032 (assuming a 3.5 kg cylinder makes 467 L and costs $15 to fill). Note that if you do buy a cylinder, there are additional costs (in NZ, a cylinder must have a safety warrant of fitness issued in the last three years to be filled, which costs ~$15 - so that is an additional $5/year to add to the cost of ownership). This article provides information on the DIY approach: http://m.popsci.com/diy/article/2012-06/how-make-your-own-home-carbonation-system http://m.popsci.com/diy/article/2012-06/how-make-your-own-ho...
  - X-Istence 14y ago
    If I am currently paying $1 per bottle of store bought (2L) club soda, and I get make 2 L of water using Sodastream for $0.80, I will make my money back in no time (considering I drink 3+ liter a day). Sure it might be cheaper to go food grade and do it that way, but I am more than happy saving even a smaller amount of money, because it adds up quick.
- Osiris 14y ago
  Who drinks just pure soda water? I'm American and I never see this. My wife visited the Ukraine and it's apparently quite common there. I also found Argentina drinks a lot of "agua con gas". Still, I'm just fine with plain flat water and some ice.