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The moment an OS maker requires signed apps (on desktop) is the moment I jump ship. They know it's the death knell for desktop OSes though. I'd be really surpri

The moment an OS maker requires signed apps (on desktop) is the moment I jump ship. They know it's the death knell for desktop OSes though. I'd be really surprised if it happens. I'm not sure what you mean about Xcode though. It's the same toolset (minus private headers) that Apple uses to build their own OS X and iOS apps. There's one extra step to put all of the command line tools on the path for you (install the Command Line Tools package). Then just get Homebrew and you're all set. Open source components of Xcode (parsers, compilers, linkers, command-line tools) here: http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/developer-tools-45/ http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/developer-tools-45/ Homebrew: http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/ http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/

orangecat 14y ago
The moment an OS maker requires signed apps (on desktop) is the moment I jump ship. Why the parenthetical? What's different about a computer you can hold in your hand that makes it justifiable for the vendor to lock it down and advocate criminal penalties for attempting to run software of your choice? They know it's the death knell for desktop OSes though. "They" have already decided that desktop OSes for the general public are deprecated. Steve Jobs years ago said that PCs are "trucks" that most consumers shouldn't use, and Microsoft has no hesitation about sacrificing Windows 8 usability on desktops in favor of tablets. Even Canonical seems to be headed that way with Unity.
spc476 14y ago
I'm a bit scared of this myself. I forward the syslog messages on my Mac to another host (a Linux system) and I've found that /usr/libexec/taskgated logs (at level 'debug') "no system signature for unsigned /Users/spc/source/sysloginter/syslogintr[181]" (a program I wrote). It also logs that message for some other programs I've compiled (like Synergy [1]) and others I've downloaded (like Firefox). In fact, I've seen that message now for the past few years. I'm still awaiting the day when I can no longer run my own software. I hope it doesn't come to pass. [1] http://synergy-foss.org/ http://synergy-foss.org/

orangecat 14y ago

The moment an OS maker requires signed apps (on desktop) is the moment I jump ship. Why the parenthetical? What's different about a computer you can hold in your hand that makes it justifiable for the vendor to lock it down and advocate criminal penalties for attempting to run software of your choice? They know it's the death knell for desktop OSes though. "They" have already decided that desktop OSes for the general public are deprecated. Steve Jobs years ago said that PCs are "trucks" that most consumers shouldn't use, and Microsoft has no hesitation about sacrificing Windows 8 usability on desktops in favor of tablets. Even Canonical seems to be headed that way with Unity.

spc476 14y ago

I'm a bit scared of this myself. I forward the syslog messages on my Mac to another host (a Linux system) and I've found that /usr/libexec/taskgated logs (at level 'debug') "no system signature for unsigned /Users/spc/source/sysloginter/syslogintr[181]" (a program I wrote). It also logs that message for some other programs I've compiled (like Synergy [1]) and others I've downloaded (like Firefox). In fact, I've seen that message now for the past few years. I'm still awaiting the day when I can no longer run my own software. I hope it doesn't come to pass. [1] http://synergy-foss.org/ http://synergy-foss.org/