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I can't agree with you on this. a) I dont really see this as an issue, though I could be missing something. Could you explain how this is a problem? b) I woul

I can't agree with you on this. a) I dont really see this as an issue, though I could be missing something. Could you explain how this is a problem? b) I would have to completely disagree with this, no baby or child growing up is going to have the predisposed notion to make fun of another baby/child for there name being "crazy". The notion of "crazy" is a matter of what EVERYONE perceives as crazy, and as such that is a problem with society. Idk if this really goes against your point but to say that kids will straight up bully someone else just because of there name is assuming a lot. c) Cant argue with you there haha.

mpyne 14y ago
If you think bullies won't identify and relentlessly exploit any possible opening then you must have been going to different schools than the rest of us. Example: The Hunt family naming their boy Michael, or the Dover family naming their boy Benjamin. Just because society acts in antisocial ways doesn't mean that we should wait for society to fix themselves. If we could simply rely on society to do the right thing we wouldn't need locks or crypto.
vidarh 14y ago
Your argument on b) sounds incredibly naive to me. Children bully each other for far less than an unusual name.
- jug6ernaut 14y ago
  As naive as thinking that a strict set of names will on some level prevent bullying when "Children bully each other for far less"? If this is indeed a reasoning for why some countries have naming lists then they have far big problems then bullying in schools. Children are a direct reflection on their parents and their parents jobs at parenting. If this is the case the problem will not be fixed with a naming list, if anything this just exasperated the problem by telling anyone with a name not on that list "yep your name is crazy". If you want to stop bullying you need to look to the parents and the media, not some naming list is a direct application of what is "politically correct". On the same note, are these same countries going to reject immigrants with children who's names are on these lists? That would never be acceptable right? So now an immigrant has less rights then the people actually born in that country? Interesting.
darklajid 14y ago
a) You'll use that name (or have it on official documents) for a long time. Maybe there's a correlation between countries that have less rules for naming and countries that make it easy to change ones name? Of course you can be 'Mustard Smith' and just introduce yourself as John and lead a mostly normal life. But that name was never a name to begin with. Names are not random nouns. You write mustard, not Mustard. John's a name, "Lightning" is - in my humble opinion - not. On various levels. b) We have to disagree then. Of course there are different levels of ~abuse~ here. Some names are just silly (incidently I'd say the German example of allowing "Legolas" is on that list), but abusing your power to name a child to make a pun is offensive in my world. Choosing offensive names should be criminal. Back to children: They will exploit differences. The more weird, crazy or .. stupid your name is, the easier it is to laugh about you. Will they make fun of ~everyone~? Sure. But crappy names make very easy targets.

mpyne 14y ago

If you think bullies won't identify and relentlessly exploit any possible opening then you must have been going to different schools than the rest of us. Example: The Hunt family naming their boy Michael, or the Dover family naming their boy Benjamin. Just because society acts in antisocial ways doesn't mean that we should wait for society to fix themselves. If we could simply rely on society to do the right thing we wouldn't need locks or crypto.

vidarh 14y ago

Your argument on b) sounds incredibly naive to me. Children bully each other for far less than an unusual name.

jug6ernaut 14y ago
As naive as thinking that a strict set of names will on some level prevent bullying when "Children bully each other for far less"? If this is indeed a reasoning for why some countries have naming lists then they have far big problems then bullying in schools. Children are a direct reflection on their parents and their parents jobs at parenting. If this is the case the problem will not be fixed with a naming list, if anything this just exasperated the problem by telling anyone with a name not on that list "yep your name is crazy". If you want to stop bullying you need to look to the parents and the media, not some naming list is a direct application of what is "politically correct". On the same note, are these same countries going to reject immigrants with children who's names are on these lists? That would never be acceptable right? So now an immigrant has less rights then the people actually born in that country? Interesting.

darklajid 14y ago

a) You'll use that name (or have it on official documents) for a long time. Maybe there's a correlation between countries that have less rules for naming and countries that make it easy to change ones name? Of course you can be 'Mustard Smith' and just introduce yourself as John and lead a mostly normal life. But that name was never a name to begin with. Names are not random nouns. You write mustard, not Mustard. John's a name, "Lightning" is - in my humble opinion - not. On various levels. b) We have to disagree then. Of course there are different levels of ~abuse~ here. Some names are just silly (incidently I'd say the German example of allowing "Legolas" is on that list), but abusing your power to name a child to make a pun is offensive in my world. Choosing offensive names should be criminal. Back to children: They will exploit differences. The more weird, crazy or .. stupid your name is, the easier it is to laugh about you. Will they make fun of ~everyone~? Sure. But crappy names make very easy targets.