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What's worse is developer-level services that require Twitter to sign up, or sometimes even Github. Not all developers (see: me) have a Twitter or Github accou

by acabal 14y ago

What's worse is developer-level services that require Twitter to sign up, or sometimes even Github. Not all developers (see: me) have a Twitter or Github account.

danielgrieve 14y ago
The services are trying to provide you with easy access so you don't have that barrier of creating "yet another account". Depending on the service they're offering they'll pick a reasonable third-party that offers oAuth integration. I'd say that GitHub auth for a service aimed at developers is a reasonable assumption to make.
- kijin 14y ago
  The process of logging in with a third-party account takes about as much time as filling out a name, email address and a password into a form. Since I can even get my browser to auto-fill my name and email address and auto-generate a random password, creating "yet another account" (a couple of clicks, no typing at all) is actually less hassle for me than logging in with some other account and then going through a scary-looking authorization prompt. In fact, apart from Stack Overflow, I can't remember a single website where my identity is tied to another account of mine.
  - orillian 14y ago
    And to make things worse a lot of time after you go through the facebook/google/github login they still require you to pick a password for their service, which means the login was purely to get you to link your accounts to their services which just feels icky to me. Sure support it as an option, but don't make it mandatory that you have a account with social media service X.
- martinced 14y ago
  "I'd say that GitHub auth for a service aimed at developers is a reasonable assumption to make." As long as its optional. I'm hosting my own Git repositories on servers I own, hosted in centers with fat pipes. I know devs working on sensitive stuff which shall never make it to any public / cloud / whatever. There are also developers who are not at all into the "open source" thinggy. It's good if they conveniently allow GitHub for those who are using GitHub as long as they also offer other ways to login (say OpenID [even if it has its flaws] or good old email/password or whatever).
rst 14y ago
Not all developers have a Facebook account. And the ones that do don't necessarily want their professional activity tied to it. Twitter has no official policy barring the same person from having multiple accounts (though Github does, for free accounts; thanks to niggler for the correction) --- so, if you want to keep your use of the service from being tied to your other online activity, you can just create a throwaway account. Facebook does; creating "throwaways" potentially puts your use of both Facebook and the other service at risk. More seriously, neither is known for, say, tracking logged-in user activity on other sites (the way Facebook is known to do with "like" buttons).
- niggler 14y ago
  Github does (read the terms of service) but I can't recall when they enforced it: "One person or legal entity may not maintain more than one free account." https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service Section A7

by acabal 14y ago

What's worse is developer-level services that require Twitter to sign up, or sometimes even Github. Not all developers (see: me) have a Twitter or Github account.

danielgrieve 14y ago

The services are trying to provide you with easy access so you don't have that barrier of creating "yet another account". Depending on the service they're offering they'll pick a reasonable third-party that offers oAuth integration. I'd say that GitHub auth for a service aimed at developers is a reasonable assumption to make.

kijin 14y ago
The process of logging in with a third-party account takes about as much time as filling out a name, email address and a password into a form. Since I can even get my browser to auto-fill my name and email address and auto-generate a random password, creating "yet another account" (a couple of clicks, no typing at all) is actually less hassle for me than logging in with some other account and then going through a scary-looking authorization prompt. In fact, apart from Stack Overflow, I can't remember a single website where my identity is tied to another account of mine.
- orillian 14y ago
  And to make things worse a lot of time after you go through the facebook/google/github login they still require you to pick a password for their service, which means the login was purely to get you to link your accounts to their services which just feels icky to me. Sure support it as an option, but don't make it mandatory that you have a account with social media service X.
martinced 14y ago
"I'd say that GitHub auth for a service aimed at developers is a reasonable assumption to make." As long as its optional. I'm hosting my own Git repositories on servers I own, hosted in centers with fat pipes. I know devs working on sensitive stuff which shall never make it to any public / cloud / whatever. There are also developers who are not at all into the "open source" thinggy. It's good if they conveniently allow GitHub for those who are using GitHub as long as they also offer other ways to login (say OpenID [even if it has its flaws] or good old email/password or whatever).

rst 14y ago

Not all developers have a Facebook account. And the ones that do don't necessarily want their professional activity tied to it. Twitter has no official policy barring the same person from having multiple accounts (though Github does, for free accounts; thanks to niggler for the correction) --- so, if you want to keep your use of the service from being tied to your other online activity, you can just create a throwaway account. Facebook does; creating "throwaways" potentially puts your use of both Facebook and the other service at risk. More seriously, neither is known for, say, tracking logged-in user activity on other sites (the way Facebook is known to do with "like" buttons).

niggler 14y ago
Github does (read the terms of service) but I can't recall when they enforced it: "One person or legal entity may not maintain more than one free account." https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service Section A7