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One small issue dev friends I talk to still face is pricing and the need to convince clients that a move to a ruby or js based tech stack vs Wordpress is worth

by why-el 14y ago

One small issue dev friends I talk to still face is pricing and the need to convince clients that a move to a ruby or js based tech stack vs Wordpress is worth it. In the country where I live, wordpress is far, far cheaper to host than anything else.

tluyben2 14y ago
Not to mention there are far more developers for it (good and bad), for some things it's much faster to work with (for most blogs with some extra fields and actually for most websites, even with mildy complex functionality it is quicker to set up and work with) etc. I'm not a WP fan, but sometimes the 'new way' is just for the hard-on and 'public profile' of the developer and outside silicon valley or other startup hubs it's just not that popular (yet).
jonascopenhagen 14y ago
Static HTML apps + REST APIs aren't dependant on Ruby/JS at all. You could easily use a REST-centric PHP framework such as http://www.slimframework.com/ http://www.slimframework.com/ as the backend. Same hosting price as WordPress. On top of that, Slim Framework is great to work with and is fast to set up compared to e.g. Sinatra or Node.
- why-el 14y ago
  I am sure they aren't and I did not mean to suggest they are. When it comes to what backend to hook your static stuff to, it's just a matter of personal preference. All I am saying is that its harder in some parts of the world where Wordpress is still looked at as the cheapest, most viable option.
  - jonascopenhagen 14y ago
    What I don't understand is why WordPress would be cheaper than other forms of PHP software? Most smaller PHP frameworks such as Slim Framework or Laravel require even less memory than WordPress and could easily be installed on a small web hosting account.
  - wyck 14y ago
    But you can stick a REST API onto WordPress. Several plugins have a JSON API, there is Hookpress, it's also not very hard to roll your own restful code. It also has XML-RPC Support which is an alternative to REST. It's actually quite simple to provide "static" outs for WordPress and the benefit is the client gets a nice easy to use admin. It's not the best thing in the world or anything, but it works.

by why-el 14y ago

tluyben2 14y ago

Not to mention there are far more developers for it (good and bad), for some things it's much faster to work with (for most blogs with some extra fields and actually for most websites, even with mildy complex functionality it is quicker to set up and work with) etc. I'm not a WP fan, but sometimes the 'new way' is just for the hard-on and 'public profile' of the developer and outside silicon valley or other startup hubs it's just not that popular (yet).

jonascopenhagen 14y ago

Static HTML apps + REST APIs aren't dependant on Ruby/JS at all. You could easily use a REST-centric PHP framework such as http://www.slimframework.com/ http://www.slimframework.com/ as the backend. Same hosting price as WordPress. On top of that, Slim Framework is great to work with and is fast to set up compared to e.g. Sinatra or Node.

why-el 14y ago
I am sure they aren't and I did not mean to suggest they are. When it comes to what backend to hook your static stuff to, it's just a matter of personal preference. All I am saying is that its harder in some parts of the world where Wordpress is still looked at as the cheapest, most viable option.
- jonascopenhagen 14y ago
  What I don't understand is why WordPress would be cheaper than other forms of PHP software? Most smaller PHP frameworks such as Slim Framework or Laravel require even less memory than WordPress and could easily be installed on a small web hosting account.
- wyck 14y ago
  But you can stick a REST API onto WordPress. Several plugins have a JSON API, there is Hookpress, it's also not very hard to roll your own restful code. It also has XML-RPC Support which is an alternative to REST. It's actually quite simple to provide "static" outs for WordPress and the benefit is the client gets a nice easy to use admin. It's not the best thing in the world or anything, but it works.