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Microsoft Launches Modern.IE To Help Developers Test Their Web Apps For IE
- taybenlor 14y agoMost important thing on modern.IE: Get a free 3-month trial of Browser Stack sponsored by Microsoft. Normally you get a 15minute trial. Just go to the Virtual Tools page.
- adimania 14y agonope. It is a 30 minute trial. :)
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- judofyr 14y agoMore important on modern.IE: > The virtual machines testing platform is nearly finished. Once completed, you'll be able to easily test your site on Windows, Mac or Linux. Check back soon. Having an official VirtualBox (I assume?) image would be great.
- reybango 14y agoThat's the plan. :)
- pdknsk 14y agoWhat's the time bomb on the images? What I'd like is MS to make Server 2003 images, rather than XP, for IE8. And 2008, rather than 7, for IE9 and IE10.
- ygra 14y agoSince they're not activated it's 30 or 90 days, I think. But you can just revert any VM changes upon shutdown and thus extend lifetime indefinitely (makes working in some environments quite a hassle, though – e.g. I'd have to re-setup the proxy every time I start the VM).
- yuhong 14y agoThis reminds me that MS will support IE on Server 2003 until July 2015, and IE on Server 2008 (both R1 and R2) until January 2020. Yes, both R1 (based on Vista/NT 6.0) and R2 (based on Win7/NT 6.1), because R2 is considered a "minor release" while Win7 is considered a major release.
- estel 14y agoThese kind of already existed: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=11575 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=1157...
- pdknsk 14y agoIt's VHD (although relatively easy to make work with VirtualBox), but more importantly exe files. I don't know it cabextract or unrar can handle this. In either case, it needlessly unfriendly to non-Windows users.
- raverbashing 14y agoThen great I won't use them (even though I remember something about cabextract being able to extract .exe files) I won't spend a minute testing on IE except if needed.
- xdissent 14y agoThe IE6 image is a cab and the rest are rars. I tried to make it more friendly: http://xdissent.github.com/ievms/ http://xdissent.github.com/ievms/
- judofyr 14y agoThat's not an official cross-platform image. I have used some tools that converts them to VirtualBox, but it hasn't been very reliable. As I said: Having official support for Linux and Mac will be great.
- joshstrange 14y agoThere is this https://github.com/xdissent/ievms https://github.com/xdissent/ievms
- jameswyse 14y ago> "The virtual machines testing platform is nearly finished. Once completed, you'll be able to easily test your site on Windows, Mac or Linux. Check back soon." Very much looking forward to this!
- jameswyse 14y agoThe VMs are now available! http://www.modern.ie/virtualization-tools http://www.modern.ie/virtualization-tools
- NiteCoder 14y agoI ran one of my problem child sites through it. Modern.IE seems more interested in ensuring my pages add a bunch of crap for IE10 and Windows 8 rather than finding painful IE8 compatibility issues. This is pretty much just a marketing site for IE10.
- ygra 14y agoThe scan results are grouped into IE compatibility problems, potential cross-browser issues and the last option you mention. I'm not sure the former two categories qualify as marketing.
- lucian1900 14y agoA site for modern Ireland that is not. [edit] I just find it odd that MS puts so much stuff on Irish domains, just because of the abbreviation. Surely they don't think they could possibly own this tld.
- pdknsk 14y ago> Step 1 – Log-in with Facebook to activate your 3 month testing service. Thanks. No.
- niggler 14y agoWhat's with this trend of companies and startups requiring customers to sign up with Facebook? Especially for developer and technical resources, for which it seems there's a healthy level of dissociation from Facebook.
- acabal 14y agoWhat's worse is developer-level services that require Twitter to sign up, or sometimes even Github. Not all developers (see: me) have a Twitter or Github account.
- danielgrieve 14y agoThe services are trying to provide you with easy access so you don't have that barrier of creating "yet another account". Depending on the service they're offering they'll pick a reasonable third-party that offers oAuth integration. I'd say that GitHub auth for a service aimed at developers is a reasonable assumption to make.
- kijin 14y agoThe process of logging in with a third-party account takes about as much time as filling out a name, email address and a password into a form. Since I can even get my browser to auto-fill my name and email address and auto-generate a random password, creating "yet another account" (a couple of clicks, no typing at all) is actually less hassle for me than logging in with some other account and then going through a scary-looking authorization prompt. In fact, apart from Stack Overflow, I can't remember a single website where my identity is tied to another account of mine.
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- dschiptsov 14y agoWhy here? It is not even humorous.
- elb0w 14y agoIf they really want to help developers they should patch ie7/8 so people auto update
- nextparadigms 14y agoAnd push IE10 to XP, which is still like 40% of PC's out there.
- yuhong 14y agoXP is going to end support in April 2014. I wonder how fast people are upgrading.
- elb0w 14y agoIf they really want to help developers they should patch ie7/8 so people auto update
- madaxe 14y agoFantabulous. It's not a tool for developers, it's a tool for clients to unreasonably bash developers over the head with and to market MS's substandard browsers. Already had one email going "URGENT!!!! COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WITH IE!!!!" on a site that renders and works perfectly back to IE6.
- yuhong 14y agoIE9 and later are not seriously "substandard".
- ericcholis 14y agoTotal side notes, but I'm really enjoying this new design trend from Google and Microsoft. Clean, simple, and to the point. Helps take that "corporate" edge of Microsoft specifically. Also I'm glad that, like Adobe, Microsoft is embracing more modern and standard practices towards web development.
- nextparadigms 14y agoI think it's a little sad that the most "modern" IE Microsoft can put out is still like 2 years behind Chrome in HTML5 features. Chrome 10 had more HTML5 features 2 years ago than IE10 has today, and the Blackberry 10 browser is actually even more ahead, and that's from a company that doesn't usually make browsers: http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html http://html5test.com/results/mobile.html http://html5test.com/results/mobile.html
- anonymfus 14y ago>and the Blackberry 10 browser is actually even more ahead, and that's from a company that doesn't usually make browsers html5test.com does not test anything, it just checks that listed features are available. Blackberry 10 uses WebKit and they just turned on more experimental features than Chrome.
- drhowarddrfine 14y agoOnly IE would need something like this and, after the free trial, you have to pay, too.
- patja 14y agoI've always found IETester to be a great "good enough" lightweight testing tool. No VM images to download/spin up separately or worry about expiration.
- crisnoble 14y agoI thought this looked okay, so I tried to get a report for hacker news: http://www.modern.ie/report#http%3A%2F%2Fnews.ycombinator.com%2F http://www.modern.ie/report#http%3A%2F%2Fnews.ycombinator.co... Result: "We encountered an error with this URL."