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I'd love to hear Matt's views on TAFE, i think accreditation has a very important place in our society (mainly because i got very sick of uneducated morons char

by verelo 14y ago

I'd love to hear Matt's views on TAFE, i think accreditation has a very important place in our society (mainly because i got very sick of uneducated morons charging people for fixing computers, writing bad code...etc) Anyway, the fact that Matt is complaining about fees and then is happy to be associated with the Singularity University that chargs $25k for a course (http://apply2013.singularityu.org/res/p/faq/ http://apply2013.singularityu.org/res/p/faq/) makes me wonder if hes just mad that they cant compete with courses provided by organizations such as TAFE. In general, this all makes me mad. Matt just seems very outspoken and is giving Australia a bad rep in general.

beamso 14y ago
I believe Matt is strongly pro accreditation. http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/fierce-debate-is-uni-an-investment-in-the-future-or-a-waste-of-time-20111114-1neei.html http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/fierce-debate-is...
- Schwolop 14y ago
  More so he's pro-theoretical grounding in a subject, because with the right background it's easy to get up to speed in the practicalities. It's a bit unpleasant reading these articles (Barrie's and the original by Harper) now, as I currently work for Bigcommerce, and turned down an offer from Freelancer. Ironically, Freelancer offerred me about 40% less salary because at the time I had a theoretical background and almost zero practical experience.
  - beamso 14y ago
    If you like, turn on 'showdead' in your HN preferences. Matt appears to have responded to your original post directly from a hellbanned account (teflonhook).
    - teflonhook 14y ago
      lol. anyway to 'undead' yourself?
    - chris_wot 14y ago
      Matt, setup a new account.
    - throwxxx 14y ago
      Reviewing the account's comment history, funny to see "teflonhook" has been chattering away for a year without noticing the hellban.
teflonhook 14y ago
Matt here. I have no problem with TAFE at all, it's a valuable part of our educational ecosystem and the country is in a skills crisis. I have a problem with an organisation like ACS being so awfully backward and outdated yet responsible so many important things. It's a protectionist racket to charge $400 for someone with an Bachelor's Degree from an Australian University to get it "accredited" so you can apply for a skilled visa, for example. Also I see nothing wrong with executive education. Singularity University is not a tertiary education provider, it's a graduate/executive program. It does not compete with TAFE in any way shape or form. I can't see how you can connect the two, quite frankly.
guard-of-terra 14y ago
Accreditation is a tool of retaining economical privileges of certain class, not an instrument for weeding off morons. Morons still get in. There's no accreditation in the whole world that says "This guy or girl is not a moron."

by verelo 14y ago

beamso 14y ago

I believe Matt is strongly pro accreditation. http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/fierce-debate-is-uni-an-investment-in-the-future-or-a-waste-of-time-20111114-1neei.html http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/fierce-debate-is...

Schwolop 14y ago
More so he's pro-theoretical grounding in a subject, because with the right background it's easy to get up to speed in the practicalities. It's a bit unpleasant reading these articles (Barrie's and the original by Harper) now, as I currently work for Bigcommerce, and turned down an offer from Freelancer. Ironically, Freelancer offerred me about 40% less salary because at the time I had a theoretical background and almost zero practical experience.
- beamso 14y ago
  If you like, turn on 'showdead' in your HN preferences. Matt appears to have responded to your original post directly from a hellbanned account (teflonhook).
  - teflonhook 14y ago
    lol. anyway to 'undead' yourself?
  - chris_wot 14y ago
    Matt, setup a new account.
  - throwxxx 14y ago
    Reviewing the account's comment history, funny to see "teflonhook" has been chattering away for a year without noticing the hellban.

teflonhook 14y ago

Matt here. I have no problem with TAFE at all, it's a valuable part of our educational ecosystem and the country is in a skills crisis. I have a problem with an organisation like ACS being so awfully backward and outdated yet responsible so many important things. It's a protectionist racket to charge $400 for someone with an Bachelor's Degree from an Australian University to get it "accredited" so you can apply for a skilled visa, for example. Also I see nothing wrong with executive education. Singularity University is not a tertiary education provider, it's a graduate/executive program. It does not compete with TAFE in any way shape or form. I can't see how you can connect the two, quite frankly.

guard-of-terra 14y ago

Accreditation is a tool of retaining economical privileges of certain class, not an instrument for weeding off morons. Morons still get in. There's no accreditation in the whole world that says "This guy or girl is not a moron."