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What they should do next: A developer-friendly command prompt/terminal

by gianbasagre 14y ago

tedunangst 14y ago
It's called powershell.
- encoderer 14y ago
  No, not really. You cannot natively SSH from powershell. You need PuTTY. And Pageant. And... ugh.... A developer friendly terminal is definitely necessary.
  - tedunangst 14y ago
    Ok, so what we're really saying is, I want a vt100 emulator.
    - encoderer 14y ago
      What I'm really saying is I want a terminal, in which I can run whatever shell I want. See also: Unix, Linux, OSX, etc, etc, etc.
      - tedunangst 14y ago
        Oh, that's easy. Start a cmd.exe terminal. Run bash (or whatever). Now you're running the shell of your choice in the cmd terminal.
        encoderer 14y ago
        Do you really find cmd.exe to be as good as OSX Terminal, or iTerm2, or the default Terminal on Ubuntu, or ?? I've used PS on Windows 7, not on Windows 8. So I'm sure it received an upgrade. I did like being able to essentially pipe objects from one script to another. But none of these apps are as flexible and powerful as the OSX and Ubuntu examples I mentioned earlier. I'm really not one for internet debates, if you feel this protective of an under-featured and clunky terminal app then ok, good for you. You can have the last word. But the GP that you replied to originally was correct and your random half-answers are really missing the point.
        tedunangst 14y ago
        Maybe conemu is what you want? Not made by MS though. I spend far less time copying and pasting into terminals in Windows, so the relative oddities involved aren't that bothersome. I think cmd/powershell is different, and lots of people write it off without even considering it. Parent wanted something "developer friendly". That could mean anything to anybody. I can only give half-answers to a half-specified problem. :) Sorry, if I wasn't very helpful. Far too often, it turns out "real development tools" means "exactly like on linux", and it's a waste of time to explain how to achieve similar features.
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    Install Git Bash and/or msys. It's really not that bad. I fired my mouth off about PowerShell before learning more about it. PowerShell in Windows 8 does come with powerful remote conenction abilities and if you grok what PS is, it's better in many ways than it's unix (bash, zsh) brethren.
  - recursive 14y ago
    Most developers using VS don't have any need to use SSH.

What they should do next: A developer-friendly command prompt/terminal

tedunangst 14y ago

It's called powershell.

encoderer 14y ago
No, not really. You cannot natively SSH from powershell. You need PuTTY. And Pageant. And... ugh.... A developer friendly terminal is definitely necessary.
- tedunangst 14y ago
  Ok, so what we're really saying is, I want a vt100 emulator.
  - encoderer 14y ago
    What I'm really saying is I want a terminal, in which I can run whatever shell I want. See also: Unix, Linux, OSX, etc, etc, etc.
    - tedunangst 14y ago
      Oh, that's easy. Start a cmd.exe terminal. Run bash (or whatever). Now you're running the shell of your choice in the cmd terminal.
      - encoderer 14y ago
        Do you really find cmd.exe to be as good as OSX Terminal, or iTerm2, or the default Terminal on Ubuntu, or ?? I've used PS on Windows 7, not on Windows 8. So I'm sure it received an upgrade. I did like being able to essentially pipe objects from one script to another. But none of these apps are as flexible and powerful as the OSX and Ubuntu examples I mentioned earlier. I'm really not one for internet debates, if you feel this protective of an under-featured and clunky terminal app then ok, good for you. You can have the last word. But the GP that you replied to originally was correct and your random half-answers are really missing the point.
        tedunangst 14y ago
        Maybe conemu is what you want? Not made by MS though. I spend far less time copying and pasting into terminals in Windows, so the relative oddities involved aren't that bothersome. I think cmd/powershell is different, and lots of people write it off without even considering it. Parent wanted something "developer friendly". That could mean anything to anybody. I can only give half-answers to a half-specified problem. :) Sorry, if I wasn't very helpful. Far too often, it turns out "real development tools" means "exactly like on linux", and it's a waste of time to explain how to achieve similar features.
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  Install Git Bash and/or msys. It's really not that bad. I fired my mouth off about PowerShell before learning more about it. PowerShell in Windows 8 does come with powerful remote conenction abilities and if you grok what PS is, it's better in many ways than it's unix (bash, zsh) brethren.
- recursive 14y ago
  Most developers using VS don't have any need to use SSH.