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why are so many people excited over this? all I got was...blackberry has apps...what's my incentive to switch from android then?

smackfu 14y ago
The goal is to keep blackberry users from switching to android and stop the hemorraghing. Then they can worry about getting customers back.
- dmix 14y ago
  But this is a whole new UI for blackberry. That means they're employees / customers would have to learn a new ui regardless. While there is already a large possibility that they are already using an Android or iPhone at home.
  - potatolicious 14y ago
    A new UI is only a bad thing if your customers like the old UI. People were actively leaving the BB platform just so they can learn a (not shitty) UI - so this is on the whole a good thing.
    - dmix 14y ago
      For an IT team, it's not if the employees like the UI, it's if they can figure out how to use it without a huge expense in training them.
rayiner 14y ago
My reasons for being excited: 1) Physical keyboard in the Q10 2) No Android, no Google 3) Hardware and software made by the same company 4) No Samsung/HTC/etc crapware customizations 5) Hopefully more top-down design and app store curation ala iOS 6) My Bold 9900 feels expensive; most Android phones I've played with feel cheap and plasticky 7) LTE, which the otherwise interesting Nexus 4 doesn't have 8) The BB10 UI looks less like an art school project than WP8
- run4yourlives 14y ago
  So aside from the keyboard, it's basically the same as my iPhone4.
  - papsosouid 14y ago
    Sure, in the same way that all smartphones are "basically the same".
    - run4yourlives 14y ago
      All smartphones aren't new to the market and looking to regain a lost share though.
      - papsosouid 14y ago
        I'm afraid I don't understand the point you are making.
        run4yourlives 14y ago
        In order to be successful, RIM/Blackberry needs to do more than just put out a phone that is equal to the competition (iPhone/Android). They've already had 2-3 years of people leaving them in droves, and those people are now, for the most part, happy with their new choices. Saying: "Look, BB10 can do everything your phone can do" is going to be met with a "So what?" by most of those users. There needs to be something in a new phone to cause people to change. So like I said, outside of a keyboard, which isn't even available yet, I don't see anything in the new phone that does this. At the very best, all Blackberry can hope for is that this phone stems the tide of current BB users opting for other smartphones. That's not going to save the company though.
        papsosouid 14y ago
        >In order to be successful, RIM/Blackberry needs to do more than just put out a phone that is equal to the competition Not really. As far as most people are concerned, all phones are equal. So, do none of them exist? All phones being basically equal works to blackberry's advantage. People choose whatever phone they like aesthetically, as they are all essentially the same (same screens, same CPUs, same memory, same apps, etc, etc). >Saying: "Look, BB10 can do everything your phone can do" is going to be met with a "So what?" Ok, but that isn't what was said. You said "its basically the same as my iphone4". That of course entirely depends on the context you want to view "basically the same" in. To a lot of people, all smartphones are "basically the same", so as I said, in that context your statement is correct. If you are making a detailed comparison of features, then both new blackberry models are obviously significantly better than your iphone4. >So like I said, outside of a keyboard, which isn't even available yet, I don't see anything in the new phone that does this. A user interface that doesn't actively punish me for trying to use it?
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smackfu 14y ago

The goal is to keep blackberry users from switching to android and stop the hemorraghing. Then they can worry about getting customers back.

dmix 14y ago
But this is a whole new UI for blackberry. That means they're employees / customers would have to learn a new ui regardless. While there is already a large possibility that they are already using an Android or iPhone at home.
- potatolicious 14y ago
  A new UI is only a bad thing if your customers like the old UI. People were actively leaving the BB platform just so they can learn a (not shitty) UI - so this is on the whole a good thing.
  - dmix 14y ago
    For an IT team, it's not if the employees like the UI, it's if they can figure out how to use it without a huge expense in training them.

rayiner 14y ago

My reasons for being excited: 1) Physical keyboard in the Q10 2) No Android, no Google 3) Hardware and software made by the same company 4) No Samsung/HTC/etc crapware customizations 5) Hopefully more top-down design and app store curation ala iOS 6) My Bold 9900 feels expensive; most Android phones I've played with feel cheap and plasticky 7) LTE, which the otherwise interesting Nexus 4 doesn't have 8) The BB10 UI looks less like an art school project than WP8

run4yourlives 14y ago
So aside from the keyboard, it's basically the same as my iPhone4.
- papsosouid 14y ago
  Sure, in the same way that all smartphones are "basically the same".
  - run4yourlives 14y ago
    All smartphones aren't new to the market and looking to regain a lost share though.
    - papsosouid 14y ago
      I'm afraid I don't understand the point you are making.
      - run4yourlives 14y ago
        In order to be successful, RIM/Blackberry needs to do more than just put out a phone that is equal to the competition (iPhone/Android). They've already had 2-3 years of people leaving them in droves, and those people are now, for the most part, happy with their new choices. Saying: "Look, BB10 can do everything your phone can do" is going to be met with a "So what?" by most of those users. There needs to be something in a new phone to cause people to change. So like I said, outside of a keyboard, which isn't even available yet, I don't see anything in the new phone that does this. At the very best, all Blackberry can hope for is that this phone stems the tide of current BB users opting for other smartphones. That's not going to save the company though.
        papsosouid 14y ago
        >In order to be successful, RIM/Blackberry needs to do more than just put out a phone that is equal to the competition Not really. As far as most people are concerned, all phones are equal. So, do none of them exist? All phones being basically equal works to blackberry's advantage. People choose whatever phone they like aesthetically, as they are all essentially the same (same screens, same CPUs, same memory, same apps, etc, etc). >Saying: "Look, BB10 can do everything your phone can do" is going to be met with a "So what?" Ok, but that isn't what was said. You said "its basically the same as my iphone4". That of course entirely depends on the context you want to view "basically the same" in. To a lot of people, all smartphones are "basically the same", so as I said, in that context your statement is correct. If you are making a detailed comparison of features, then both new blackberry models are obviously significantly better than your iphone4. >So like I said, outside of a keyboard, which isn't even available yet, I don't see anything in the new phone that does this. A user interface that doesn't actively punish me for trying to use it?

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