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> Stole jobs that should have been theirs, stole attention that could have been directed to something legitimate... You really hit the nail on the head here. H

> Stole jobs that should have been theirs, stole attention that could have been directed to something legitimate... You really hit the nail on the head here. Her pathological addiction to lies deprived hard-working people of opportunities. And it's a blackhole situation – had those opportunities gone to legitimate people, they could have advanced. Instead, by sucking up all this value, Hornstein destroyed it. Everything she touched had a taint to it. Because everything about her was built on lies, everything she took, everything she accomplished, went nowhere. Good things that could have grown people's businesses or careers instead evaporated forever. What a poison.

milkman 14y ago
One of the greatest things I ever learned was how to forgive like a Samurai warrior. Samurai warriors apparently didn't forgive often, but when they did they fully unburdened themselves from bad feelings. It was a friend and history buff who told me about it shortly after my marriage dissolved. It stayed with me and I even did a hypnosis script on it if anyone is interested: http://summonthewarrior.com/the-samurai-warrior-forgives/ http://summonthewarrior.com/the-samurai-warrior-forgives/
neumann_alfred 14y ago
Anything she accomplished went nowhere? One has to be complete fucking career whore to entertain that thought for a second, otherwise it's a non-sequitur; anything she accomplished was accomplished, period, and the only loss you can complain about is that she can't stick it in her resume now, like someone else could have done. Hence career whore, and I know this is going to be killed or worse but I don't care. The fucking nerve of your post, really, to call a person a poison without a second thought. The irony of it, actually. You have NO idea where she is going. Fucking up and learning from it gives you insights and even strengths you cannot have from not fucking up. Who knows, she might one day help people in similar situations, whatever. had those opportunities gone to legitimate people, they could have advanced. Right, and because of her, they are now stuck forever. Is that what you're arguing? Because it has to be either that, or that "any penny matters, time is money".. either way, this is a human talking about human stuff, what makes you think you even are competent to reply? You could have used the time you used to write that post to further your career, and now that moment evaporated forever. Better get hustling.
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- danilocampos 14y ago
  Feel better getting that off your chest, there?
  - neumann_alfred 14y ago
    Why yes, thanks for asking.
- joshguthrie 14y ago
  Thanks for your nice take on the situation, no "let's-stone-the-bitch-and-lynch-her" or any other holier-than-thou comments. I had a discussion just some hours ago about the same kind of person in France (my frog says hi) and Entertainment. A young woman called Zahia Dehar, who went from underage (17) escort-girl for national soccer players to the Princess of her very own fairytale, working for Karl Lagerfeld, working with renowned brands, getting a documentary about her coming soon,... And of course, with all our morals and stuff, we'll be quick to judge her as "she's just a whore, why care?", and still, she's now more popular than most of us. "Don't hate the player, play the game." Be it Zahia, Kim Kardashian, Shirley Hornstein,...aren't they just the female versions of Frank Abagnale, or even a twisted (as in "I do stuff for me, not for curiosity's sake") version our very own Kevin Mitnick? Like it or not, these persons are "hacking" their way to fame. Do they use the right methods? We're enclined to think "no" but it's a matter of personal view. These three girls never stole anything. They cheated they way, yes: they used the system, the system WE built. One used fake credentials and network because some people value "who-you-know" more than "what-you-can-do", one went on to have a show about her to get simple minds addicted to her private life and the last one sold her body to make more money in her prime than most of us will do in a lifetime. Now what about us, are we accomplishing anything by wasting time here bitching about it or are we just complaining that we didn't take those "opportunities" ourselves?
  - danilocampos 14y ago
    > These three girls never stole anything. ...What are you talking about? She stole money from multiple people and companies. She took someone's credit card out of their hotel room and used it for her own purposes. Moreover, Abagnale went to prison. As he deserved to. He was a thief. Just like Hornstein.

milkman 14y ago

One of the greatest things I ever learned was how to forgive like a Samurai warrior. Samurai warriors apparently didn't forgive often, but when they did they fully unburdened themselves from bad feelings. It was a friend and history buff who told me about it shortly after my marriage dissolved. It stayed with me and I even did a hypnosis script on it if anyone is interested: http://summonthewarrior.com/the-samurai-warrior-forgives/ http://summonthewarrior.com/the-samurai-warrior-forgives/

neumann_alfred 14y ago

Anything she accomplished went nowhere? One has to be complete fucking career whore to entertain that thought for a second, otherwise it's a non-sequitur; anything she accomplished was accomplished, period, and the only loss you can complain about is that she can't stick it in her resume now, like someone else could have done. Hence career whore, and I know this is going to be killed or worse but I don't care. The fucking nerve of your post, really, to call a person a poison without a second thought. The irony of it, actually. You have NO idea where she is going. Fucking up and learning from it gives you insights and even strengths you cannot have from not fucking up. Who knows, she might one day help people in similar situations, whatever. had those opportunities gone to legitimate people, they could have advanced. Right, and because of her, they are now stuck forever. Is that what you're arguing? Because it has to be either that, or that "any penny matters, time is money".. either way, this is a human talking about human stuff, what makes you think you even are competent to reply? You could have used the time you used to write that post to further your career, and now that moment evaporated forever. Better get hustling.

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danilocampos 14y ago
Feel better getting that off your chest, there?
- neumann_alfred 14y ago
  Why yes, thanks for asking.
joshguthrie 14y ago
Thanks for your nice take on the situation, no "let's-stone-the-bitch-and-lynch-her" or any other holier-than-thou comments. I had a discussion just some hours ago about the same kind of person in France (my frog says hi) and Entertainment. A young woman called Zahia Dehar, who went from underage (17) escort-girl for national soccer players to the Princess of her very own fairytale, working for Karl Lagerfeld, working with renowned brands, getting a documentary about her coming soon,... And of course, with all our morals and stuff, we'll be quick to judge her as "she's just a whore, why care?", and still, she's now more popular than most of us. "Don't hate the player, play the game." Be it Zahia, Kim Kardashian, Shirley Hornstein,...aren't they just the female versions of Frank Abagnale, or even a twisted (as in "I do stuff for me, not for curiosity's sake") version our very own Kevin Mitnick? Like it or not, these persons are "hacking" their way to fame. Do they use the right methods? We're enclined to think "no" but it's a matter of personal view. These three girls never stole anything. They cheated they way, yes: they used the system, the system WE built. One used fake credentials and network because some people value "who-you-know" more than "what-you-can-do", one went on to have a show about her to get simple minds addicted to her private life and the last one sold her body to make more money in her prime than most of us will do in a lifetime. Now what about us, are we accomplishing anything by wasting time here bitching about it or are we just complaining that we didn't take those "opportunities" ourselves?
- danilocampos 14y ago
  > These three girls never stole anything. ...What are you talking about? She stole money from multiple people and companies. She took someone's credit card out of their hotel room and used it for her own purposes. Moreover, Abagnale went to prison. As he deserved to. He was a thief. Just like Hornstein.